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Waymo Drives Off with South Bay Man's Luggage

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Re: Waymo Drives Off with South Bay Man's Luggage

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The way this has apparently been handled saddens me. I worked for Cruise, a Waymo competitor. A Cruise vehicle famously had a very unfortunate accident and Cruise government relations employees famously tried to cover up the worst details when reporting it to the CA DMV. Of course the cover-up was discovered and guess what? Cruise lost their license and not long after lost all their funding and shut down.

Self driving cars are a new technology that makes a lot of people nervous. For it to succeed those nerves need to be acknowledged and settled. This is life and death for the business and technology!

Also, Waymo's customers (and really all of us sharing the road with them) are very much providing Waymo a huge service as early beta testers. They need to be treated extremely well right now. It is not the time for Waymo to be trying to keep things quiet, dismissing concerns, and making half assed restitution for problems. Again, This is life and death for the technology and your company, Waymo! Every bit as important as the engineering work you are doing. Please don't screw this up

Re: Waymo Drives Off with South Bay Man's Luggage

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post #19

take two complementary rides to pick it up That seems... reasonable? They're not saying "come at your own expense" but giving him a ride there and back.

If I steal your luggage, do you expect to be paid to get it or that I return to you? Waymo should have white-gloved this and sent Larry Page himself to deliver the luggage. This is horrible PR. Airlines will send you their luggage if misplaced. One day Waymo will drive-off with your toddler and ask you to file for adoption if you want them back.

Agreed - they dont even need to send an employee to do it, they can just send a driverless waymo with the luggage surely!

Re: Waymo Drives Off with South Bay Man's Luggage

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take two complementary rides to pick it up That seems... reasonable? They're not saying "come at your own expense" but giving him a ride there and back.

Why can’t they just put back into a car in the back seat or whatever and send it off to him? Seems strange to make it so difficult when they surely have a vehicle sitting right there in their depot that could do the job as soon as the customer is back home.

Re: Waymo Drives Off with South Bay Man's Luggage

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post #19

take two complementary rides to pick it up That seems... reasonable? They're not saying "come at your own expense" but giving him a ride there and back.

If I steal your luggage, do you expect to be paid to get it or that I return to you? Waymo should have white-gloved this and sent Larry Page himself to deliver the luggage. This is horrible PR. Airlines will send you their luggage if misplaced. One day Waymo will drive-off with your toddler and ask you to file for adoption if you want them back.

Airlines will send you their luggage if misplaced

That's because airlines often have their own cargo/courier service which they can easily use for delivery; and everyone knows that even those lose packages at a nonzero rate.

One day Waymo will drive-off with your toddler and ask you to file for adoption if you want them back.

Your failed attempt at outrage sensationalism didn't help your argument.

Re: Waymo Drives Off with South Bay Man's Luggage

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take two complementary rides to pick it up That seems... reasonable? They're not saying "come at your own expense" but giving him a ride there and back.

How do we help you (and anyone else who thinks this is reasonable) to understand that it's absolutely not. Sure, it could be worse, but it also could be much better.

Re: Waymo Drives Off with South Bay Man's Luggage

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take two complementary rides to pick it up That seems... reasonable? They're not saying "come at your own expense" but giving him a ride there and back.

Why can’t they just put back into a car in the back seat or whatever and send it off to him? Seems strange to make it so difficult when they surely have a vehicle sitting right there in their depot that could do the job as soon as the customer is back home.

What if they did that, and the car somehow arrives empty? They're going to be in even bigger trouble.

Re: Waymo Drives Off with South Bay Man's Luggage

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take two complementary rides to pick it up That seems... reasonable? They're not saying "come at your own expense" but giving him a ride there and back.

No, it doesn't. It used to be when the airline lost your bag they would get it to you no matter what. They own their mistake, and make it right to the best of their ability. In the most egregious case I can recall, delivering skis and poles 4hr+ from the airport into a remote mountain village ca. 2003. This is how you build trust in your brand--when you fuck up, you take ownership and make it right. You don't just sh…

OTOH, a free trip to the depot and back is actually more than you'd get from a traditional taxi service under the same circumstances.

Re: Waymo Drives Off with South Bay Man's Luggage

#30

take two complementary rides to pick it up That seems... reasonable? They're not saying "come at your own expense" but giving him a ride there and back.

I'm genuinely curious how you think it's acceptable for a company to make a mistake and the burden the customer with resolving it.
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