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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by embedding-shape »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #59
aqme28 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a lot of daylight in between “progressive” and “openly explicitly racist”

Isn't grok currently holding the world record for the biggest generator of CSAM? Or did they change focus to enhance their racism and propaganda vertical? Things move so quickly these days hard to keep up!

> Isn't grok currently holding the world record for the biggest generator of CSAM?

I'm not sure I see how that's possible, given their image/video generation seems to be heavily censored. Do they have some alternative product besides "Imagine" or whatever it's called, that people use for generating CSAM?

Judging by https://old.reddit.com/r/grok (but I haven't validated it myself), it seems like people are complaining more about how censored the model is, than anything else, maybe that's not actually true in reality?

There are image models out there with 0 restrictions, even available on HuggingFace or CivitAI, I'm guessing those are way more widely used for things like CSAM than any centralized platform with moderation.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by randallsquared »

draxil wrote: post #109
readthenotes1 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't like science fiction references in general or Heinlein in particular?

I don't like that word, which was previously a common part of my vocabulary, being forever ruined?

My father's name was Claude, but, you know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by AntiUSAbah »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #27

As an English-as-second-language speaker and writer, one thing Grok really shines at is capturing the tone and level of "formality" of a piece of text and the replicating it correctly. It seems to understand the little human subtleties of language in a way the other major providers don't. Chatgpt goes overly stiff and formal sounding, or ends up in a weird "aye guvnor" type informal language (Claude is sometimes bett…

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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by doctorhandshake »

everfrustrated wrote: post #154
drivingmenuts wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I look at the person behind it all, I have to wonder how the hell people can even consider using grok? Or using Twitter? Or any of that. Using any of those things puts money in Musk's pockets and further enables and encourages him to continue being a Neo-Nazi wannabe. Do they think it's just a phase?

Do you drive BMW or VW car? Boy do I have news for you!

Technically you could lump Ford in this category as well. But the meaningful delta IMO is time and direct ownership. None of those three are currently owned/operated by openly Nazi-aligned individuals / groups, which is not something I think you can claim about Tesla.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by [deleted] »

xiphias2 wrote: post #130

It's just at the Chinese levels for coding, so right now it's just a money earing thing for investors. I hope the Cursor guys help them catch up to be closer to frontier models because they badly need help in it.

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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by kedihacker »

pixel_popping wrote: post #82
thunderbong wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure Twitter knows which are the bot accounts and is surely excluding them from their model training. Twitter bots aren't a new phenomenon after all.

There is bots everywhere, it has nothing to do with the platform, it has to do with attackers having an incentive to do mass account farming, no platform is secure against it.

With banning and deboosting they need to be very accurate but with filtering they can be more liberal in excluding

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by kilroy123 »

ai_fry_ur_brain wrote: post #142
kilroy123 wrote: post #110

People are going to hate on Grok because of Musk. However, I do hope they're successful in making a powerful model. We desperately need more competition. I want cheap subsidized AI plans. I hope Meta finally comes around, too. I want those sweet, sweet billionaire subsidized tokens.

Your $200 claude code subscription is a cheap subsidized plan. You're getting like 40k in tokens a year for $2400. A whole lotta people are about to be sad when they realize they bet their competency on that lasting forever.

That's my point. While the billionares fight each other over who has the best model, this will continue for a while. At least, I think so.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by foltik »

renegade-otter wrote: post #156
kilroy123 wrote: post #110

People are going to hate on Grok because of Musk. However, I do hope they're successful in making a powerful model. We desperately need more competition. I want cheap subsidized AI plans. I hope Meta finally comes around, too. I want those sweet, sweet billionaire subsidized tokens.

Pardon me for feeling icky when giving money to the guy who is obsessed with "white replacement". I am old and cynical - I have no illusions, but I also have my limits and a semblance of moral compass. We, as citizens, can vote with ballots, but also with money. And, no, I am not someone who keeps boycotting companies for every little grievance (was on the receiving end of that nonsense twice).

Never used grok, never will.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by mritchie712 »

Cakez0r wrote: post #149
mythz wrote: post #6

Ok speed (202.7 tok/s) and value (1.25 -> 2.50) look great, with pretty decent intelligence.

202.7 tok/s is only OK speed? Which providers are you using that are significantly better than that?

for reference, it's the 2nd fastest model tracked in the "Highlights" section of https://artificialanalysis.ai/
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