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Re: Grok 4.3

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Grok is as progressive as any of the other models. Despite some of the highly-publicised fuck-ups, try asking Grok anything racist and see how it replies. Yes, I know you didn't try this and you won’t.

There is a lot of daylight in between “progressive” and “openly explicitly racist”

I didn’t say “progressive”; I said “as progressive”.

Re: Grok 4.3

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As an English-as-second-language speaker and writer, one thing Grok really shines at is capturing the tone and level of "formality" of a piece of text and the replicating it correctly. It seems to understand the little human subtleties of language in a way the other major providers don't. Chatgpt goes overly stiff and formal sounding, or ends up in a weird "aye guvnor" type informal language (Claude is sometimes bett…

I've also noticed that when I communicate with Grok in my native language, its tone is more natural than other models. I think this is due to the advantage of being trained on a large amount of Twitter data. However, as Twitter contains more and more AI-generated content now, I'm afraid continued training will make it less natural.

I'm sure Twitter knows which are the bot accounts and is surely excluding them from their model training. Twitter bots aren't a new phenomenon after all.

Re: Grok 4.3

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https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/13/training-for-pelicans-... You should probably come up with variations, like a beaver riding a scooter or something, just to see what's what :)

Thanks I have generated both beaver riding a scooter: https://gist.github.com/SerJaimeLannister/f6de26bd0d0817e056... pelican riding a bicycle: https://gist.github.com/SerJaimeLannister/f6de26bd0d0817e056... Personal opinion but the beaver one looks especially bad as compared to pelicans. Can we be for sure that this model of grok-4.3 hasn't been trained on pelican. Simonw in blog-post says that he will try with othe…

We can never be sure of course, but I think this is a very strong indication that pelican riding a bike is indeed going into the training dataset.

Thanks for generating those!

Re: Grok 4.3

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This project is a gigantic waste of resources, it’s fine tuned on politics of the CEO, was used for CSAM generation and just sucks overall

I like that there are models with divergent politics; the status quo being creepy corporate left silicon valley is not healthy or pleasant to interact with.

Even with grock it's only broadening things to creepy corporate right of silicon valley.

Re: Grok 4.3

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So, we have: - claude for corps and gov - codex for devs - grok for what, roleplay, racism? Those are the two things I've ever heard grok associated with around me.

So interestingly, I know of at least one application in a charity that deals with trafficking where grok was happy to do one-shot classification tasks where all other models refused to cooperate.

I think there's a surprising number of actually useful applications in this sort of grey area for a slightly-less guardrailed, near-frontier model (also the grok-fast models are cheap!).

Re: Grok 4.3

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The tok/s stat is interesting. Since the dominant constraint on inference speed is hardware, it suggests X purchased far more compute than was really needed to serve the demand for their models. Expensive miscalculation.

Didn't a bunch of hardware that was destined for Tesla get redirected to xAI? I'm sure I remember something like that.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grok is as progressive as any of the other models. Despite some of the highly-publicised fuck-ups, try asking Grok anything racist and see how it replies. Yes, I know you didn't try this and you won’t.

There is a lot of daylight in between “progressive” and “openly explicitly racist”

Isn't grok currently holding the world record for the biggest generator of CSAM? Or did they change focus to enhance their racism and propaganda vertical? Things move so quickly these days hard to keep up!
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