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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by weird-eye-issue »

jamwil wrote: post #613
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #611

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run an AI subscription business and we have our pricing set in a way that we make an acceptable profit even if all users were to max out their given usage

Of course. My point is that your profit still decreases as you approach max usage, ceteris parabis. It may be acceptable but it is less. Your costs are variable and your revenue is fixed (at least on a unit basis).

No, not for us because we have a lot of different tiers and so as their usage increases they buy bigger and bigger plans.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by TN1ck »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #652
TN1ck wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? I do the same, I tell it the exact content, but I don’t have to do all the rest. My blog is a react based (because I like interactivity) and has no asset pipeline, so it’s not as user friendly to edit the content as e.g. a markdown file.

What do you need React for in a blog?

Check this post for example: https://tn1ck.com/blog/how-to-generate-sudokus

I use it for the interactivity.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by djeastm »

ajam1507 wrote: post #533
emp17344 wrote: post #462

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They’re idiots who hacked together a shockingly useful tool by leveraging the billions of dollars they received from shamelessly hyping up chatbots. The Claude Code leak makes this very clear.

Pretty wild to say that the company with one of the best models (arguably the best) is a bunch of idiots.

The people working on the models almost certainly aren't the same people writing the code for their harness.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by adriand »

margalabargala wrote: post #247
abdullin wrote: post #46

I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%

This partially reproduced for me. I did not see my session use go to 100%. I did however get: > API Error: 400 {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"You're out of extra usage. Add more at claude.ai/settings/usage and keep going."},"request_id":"redacted"}

The narrative that they have guards against mentioning openclaw doesn’t make sense to me - I’ve been using Claude code to manage an openclaw instance for a few weeks now, with zero issues.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by notarobot123 »

raincole wrote: post #638
captn3m0 wrote: post #486

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Worse than that, these are all vibe coded changes. If you look at any public Anthropocene codebase, they are all vibe coded messes with no coherent vision. I was looking at the Claude Code GitHub Action and it is a mess of options that don’t exist together, unclear documentation, and usage story being terribly unclear.

People say that a mostly-vibed project will collapse under its own weight. I personally doubt it, but I will be amused if the first big one falls this way is Claude Code itself.

I've seen ancient codebases that you need to be blessed by a priest to even touch but they keep chugging away and having new features added. I wouldn't hold my breath for a collapse, just a quagmire that we continually have to wade through to get anything done.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by somat »

raincole wrote: post #638
captn3m0 wrote: post #486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worse than that, these are all vibe coded changes. If you look at any public Anthropocene codebase, they are all vibe coded messes with no coherent vision. I was looking at the Claude Code GitHub Action and it is a mess of options that don’t exist together, unclear documentation, and usage story being terribly unclear.

People say that a mostly-vibed project will collapse under its own weight. I personally doubt it, but I will be amused if the first big one falls this way is Claude Code itself.

Unfortunately it will all probably sort of work, But best not to dwell too much on how the sausage is made, it is pretty unpleasant. There will be some interesting job titles in the future however.

I just read Vernor Vinge's "A deepness in the sky" And the way he modeled their compute systems felt depressingly believable, they have thousand of years of libraries floating around, sort of loosely tacked together. and specialist programmer-archaeologists are the ones who who dig deep and try to understand the system.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by nsvd2 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #419
ifwinterco wrote: post #273

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At this point everyone doing these kind of flows (using claws or any other flows that run agents in a loop 24/7) using any kind of subscription-based billing for inference must be aware they're on borrowed time. Enough people have gone over the economics - you're costing OpenAI/Anthropic money, potentially a lot of money, so it's inevitable that sooner or later that particular party will come to an end. Having said t…

I don't get it though. Why not just revise the billing so that if users are hitting the servers above some defined frequency, they get charged more? I'm tired of this startup-adjacent mindset that promotes endless adversarial scamming. I absolutely think people should be able to run OpenClaw or whatever harnesses they want, but I also think they should pay in some proportion to usage rather than trying to exploit an…

If they do that, they lose market share to their competitors, which kills their ability to raise investor capital, which kills the company, because they are almost entirely funded by investor capital.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by tjpnz »

petercooper wrote: post #232
abdullin wrote: post #46

I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%

I wonder if projects which are anti-AI could place such identifiers surreptitiously into docs or commits as a way to sabotage people using Claude Code. Your project isn't going to get many AI PRs if just cloning your project wiped out their quota.

A similar technique can be employed to block people from China accessing your website:

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20241207/p2a/00m/0na/01...

I wonder if this would work with DeepSeek and friends.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by AbstractH24 »

jwilliams wrote: post #451
jrflo wrote: post #21

I think it goes beyond this. I was just using claude to edit a blog post which mentioned OpenClaw and I got this response: "The "OpenClaw" reference — I assume that's a typo or playful reference; if you mean a real product, I couldn't find it under that spelling and you'll want to fix or footnote it.". I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit. Could have been a co…

> I don't know what "openclaw" is. It's not something I have knowledge of, and it doesn't appear in your memory or this project's context. As others have pointed out, Anthropic is allowed to have TOS, even if we disagree with it. But having Claude deny the existence of OpenClaw is a way more hazardous and likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution: https://www.anthropic.com/constitution

> As others have pointed out, Anthropic is allowed to have TOS, even if we disagree with it.

Anthropic is allowed to shutdown its LLM and manufacture clown noses if it wants

Doesn’t mean customers have to agree with it.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by dubcanada »

bryanhogan wrote: post #56

Claude.ai is now at a 98.85% uptime. There's been so many frustrations with Claude / Anthropic lately (very heavy usage limits, wrong A / B testing, etc.). Claude status: https://status.claude.com/ I have been really happy with my Codex subscription lately, but feels like these things change every other day. The OpenCode Go subscription for trying out GLM, Kimi, Qwen, Deepseek and friends also looks useful. But nonet…

If only opencode wasn't super buggy, it is really bad at just not returning responses, wasting tokens, duplicating responses, lagging, etc. It is nowhere near claude code levels, not even close. Even codex which is also not near claude is much better then opencode.
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