Who could have seen this one coming. From yesterday: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-ai-pentagon-classified-u... ("Hundreds of Google workers urge CEO to refuse classified AI work with Pentagon"). Any AI researcher who continues to work here is morally compromised.
Why is it morally wrong for a US citizen to work with their government?
Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
111–120 of 308 posts
Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct. It depends. For example, it might depend on what the collaboration is likely to result in. Perhaps it would be more likely to be moral there were some boundaries in place, like "no mass domestic surveillance" or "no fully autonomous weapons". Because the US government currently believes it is legal to blow up civilian drug traffickers and wage war without congressional approval. So at some point, yes, collab…
The US military has deployed fully autonomous weapons since at least 1979, and potential adversaries are now doing the same. For better or worse that ship has sailed.
Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic(sounds like you are!) but indeed a lot of engineers left Russia after the war in Ukraine started as they didn't want to be drafted and didn't want to contribute to the war effort in some way, even if indirectly. Of course, many stayed or even willingly help. See how many engineers from Iran work abroad too, for moral and other reasons. The point is - this happens everywhere, it'…
[flagged]
Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
#114Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it doesn't at all. Private corporations shouldn't be telling the government what it can and can't do. That's the job of the people. You want private corporation overriding your vote?
> Private corporations shouldn't be telling the government what it can and can't do. So Google can't tell the government it needs a warrant to perform a search? Google can't sue over something the government did? It's Google's product they want to buy.
Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
We can all agree that working for the Nazi government’s military would be morally compromising, right? You propose that other governments militaries would not be so compromising. Seems reasonable. But the question then becomes, what is the operative distinction between the two?
[flagged]
The courts can intervene later, but they can't un-bomb a hospital.
This is setting aside the obvious problem where governments will often set laws based on self-interest rather than morality, particularly when it comes to military conflict.
Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
#117Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
#118Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
[flagged]
[flagged]
Re: Google and Pentagon reportedly agree on deal for 'any lawful' use of AI
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic(sounds like you are!) but indeed a lot of engineers left Russia after the war in Ukraine started as they didn't want to be drafted and didn't want to contribute to the war effort in some way, even if indirectly. Of course, many stayed or even willingly help. See how many engineers from Iran work abroad too, for moral and other reasons. The point is - this happens everywhere, it'…
[flagged]