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Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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> we should stop calling this type of model open source. They are indeed "open weight” This ship has sailed. It’s now in the same category as hacker/cracker and the pronunciation of GIF.

It's the same as GIS, you wouldn't say jizz now would you?

I hadn't thought about how to pronounce GIS, but do you have a problem with the pronunciation of the Japanese Industrial Standards: JIS?

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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I think we should stop calling this type of models open source. They are indeed "open weight." The training code is proprietary and never revealed. https://github.com/microsoft/VibeVoice/issues/102

I'm genuinely torn on this one; I get technically why not, but why I think I have no problem with it is the wishy-washiness of "open source" generally.

As I teach this stuff to people newer to this tech, it's probably just easier and more helpful to refer to the wide array of "stuff you can just download and use yourself" as "open-source" and then after that, go deeper and talk about why Stallman was right, how "Free Software" was first. etc.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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If you're going to apologize to Stallman, you should apologize for conflating open source with software freedom. ;D

With free libre software, where freedom and liberty are about what the end user is empowered with actually, the software is mostly metonymic. Free software, free society, because there are free people in the middle of course.

Right, as I said elsewhere, maybe let's just let "open-source" have it.

"Open-source" can be "anything you can go out and grab a copy of and use" but doesn't give you much legal certainty about any of it, and reserve "free software" for the other, better thing.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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post #14

I think we should stop calling this type of models open source. They are indeed "open weight." The training code is proprietary and never revealed. https://github.com/microsoft/VibeVoice/issues/102

What you said makes a lot of sense. Free software should not be confused with open source

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

#77
post #15

This is not a new model. Also, it hallucinates a lot. Also, it's very heavy and slow in inference. It's also bad in multilingual. Edit: I'm talking purely about speech to text (STT). Not sure about the other things this can do.

Yeah, I don't get why it is suddenly getting so much attention today, it is all over twitter too

Simonw (who has a bit of a Midas touch for posts here) just posted about it https://simonwillison.net/2026/Apr/27/vibevoice/

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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post #69

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"get offended" is just what the clickbait news cycle made of it. It was based on the post at [1], and this is all it said: > We need to get beyond the arguments of slop vs sophistication and develop a new equilibrium in terms of our “theory of the mind” that accounts for humans being equipped with these new cognitive amplifier tools as we relate to each other [1] https://snscratchpad.com/posts/looking-ahead-2026/

When a CEO says "We need to get beyond the arguments of X" it is universally a polite, PR-scrubbed way of saying, "Please stop talking about X, it is hurting our business" which is how the media interpreted it.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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> we should stop calling this type of model open source. They are indeed "open weight” This ship has sailed. It’s now in the same category as hacker/cracker and the pronunciation of GIF.

And "hallucination" which should have been "delusion". Way early on (spring 2023) people tried to stop it, but no luck.

Why would it be delusion? It’s making something up which isn’t there and describing it.
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