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VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by giancarlostoro »

maxloh wrote: post #14

I think we should stop calling this type of models open source. They are indeed "open weight." The training code is proprietary and never revealed. https://github.com/microsoft/VibeVoice/issues/102

I mean, you have "AI" which means just about anything in marketing speak, "Agentic" is kind of becoming similar, hopefully they don't goof that one too badly, would be nice to know what you are trying to sell me. Used to be "Cloud" meant storage not just hosting (I guess it still does).

Then there's "Smart" in front of Car, Phone, TV, and so on... Meaning different things.

I do think "Open Weight" should be more commonly used. There's definitely communities that spring up that build the training infrastructure and inference infrastructure around open models on the other hand.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by giancarlostoro »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #19
maxloh wrote: post #14

I think we should stop calling this type of models open source. They are indeed "open weight." The training code is proprietary and never revealed. https://github.com/microsoft/VibeVoice/issues/102

> we should stop calling this type of model open source. They are indeed "open weight” This ship has sailed. It’s now in the same category as hacker/cracker and the pronunciation of GIF.

It's the same as GIS, you wouldn't say jizz now would you?

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Post by chrsw »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #27

What’s the current state of the art, for each of training locally and in the cloud, for learning my voice?

Local? No idea. Cloud? Eleven Labs, probably. But it's described as "cloning" not "training". Not sure what the distinction is or why it matters if the end result is you can to generate any TTS that sounds like you. There might very well be an important one, I just don't know it.

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Post by notabotiswear »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #32
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we should stop calling this type of model open source. They are indeed "open weight” This ship has sailed. It’s now in the same category as hacker/cracker and the pronunciation of GIF.

It's the same as GIS, you wouldn't say jizz now would you?

I take it that you haven’t met the Arcgees people…

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by notabotiswear »

maxloh wrote: post #14

I think we should stop calling this type of models open source. They are indeed "open weight." The training code is proprietary and never revealed. https://github.com/microsoft/VibeVoice/issues/102

Openwashing is the new greenwashing, which, coincidently, seems to have gone out of fashion a few hundred datacentres ago.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by infecto »

embedding-shape wrote: post #5

Isn't this project the one Microsoft published but then soon after pulled it for security/safety reasons? What has changed since then?

It’s confusing (at least for me) because the project covers a number of things including what you are mentioning.

Re: VibeVoice: Open-source frontier voice AI

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Post by WarmWash »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #19
maxloh wrote: post #14

I think we should stop calling this type of models open source. They are indeed "open weight." The training code is proprietary and never revealed. https://github.com/microsoft/VibeVoice/issues/102

> we should stop calling this type of model open source. They are indeed "open weight” This ship has sailed. It’s now in the same category as hacker/cracker and the pronunciation of GIF.

And "hallucination" which should have been "delusion".

Way early on (spring 2023) people tried to stop it, but no luck.

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