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Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism

#31
post #12

Vegetarianism is such a bad label lol Just say GenAI-free; organic software (written by organic agents as opposed to silicon-based ones); or, literally anything that actually means what you wrote.

>> Vegetarianism is such a bad label lol

Agreed. I was expecting to find AI-generated vegetarian recipes.

Actually, I wonder if they would be any good.

Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism

#32
post #12

Vegetarianism is such a bad label lol Just say GenAI-free; organic software (written by organic agents as opposed to silicon-based ones); or, literally anything that actually means what you wrote.

If the analogy is to diet, Paleo seems like a better fit than vegetarian.

Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism

#33
post #25

Is it a bit ironic that, while I certainly believe the author did not use gen AI to create this post, it reads like the most mindlessly AI generated post ever?

What I find ironic is that "this reads like an AI" is a phrase that is rapidly losing its meaning, partly due to advances in AI, but also because it's being worn out, just like every other generic phrase used to dismiss someone's work out of hand without providing any additional context.

Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism

#34
I admire you taking personal responsibility and actively refusing to support systems you see as wrong and harmful. But, echoing what others have said, as a vegan and previously vegetarian of many years, I think there's probably a better way to describe this than "AI Vegetarianism". Both so that people take it more seriously, and to avoid adding even more confusion to the already misunderstood topics of vegetarianism/veganism.

While you're at least trying to use the term in a positive light, it's not hard to imagine people using the same terms "AI vegan" and "AI vegetarian" in a disparaging way. The implication is "vegetarians/vegans are preachy/crazy/annoying/arrogant" and using that to describe someone who's anti-AI. E.g. "Oh don't listen to Bob, he's just an AI vegan" or "These annoying AI vegans keep protesting outside and blocking traffic". Now vegans/vegetarians are dragged into something they have nothing to do with, AND you've given detractors an easy way to mock you.

Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism

#36
post #12

Vegetarianism is such a bad label lol Just say GenAI-free; organic software (written by organic agents as opposed to silicon-based ones); or, literally anything that actually means what you wrote.

I liked it immediately, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it until I saw your comment.

To me, "vegetarianism" is a much better label than "organic" or "GenAI-free". People who buy "organic" and "free range" do so because they believe it's better: higher quality, healthier, etc. (Whether they're right depends a lot on the requirements placed on that label and how those requirements are enforced, but that's tangential here.)

On the other hand, vegetarianism used to be this weird, niche thing that people made fun of. Vegetarians had to fight for acceptance. This is exactly how I feel about this new world that I find myself in, where AI is being shoved down everyone's throat and where developers (like me) who resist it are treated like a weird, niche group of outcasts.

Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism

#37
post #12

Vegetarianism is such a bad label lol Just say GenAI-free; organic software (written by organic agents as opposed to silicon-based ones); or, literally anything that actually means what you wrote.

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Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism

#38

To draw an incredibly stretched comparison to vegetarianism instantly tells me everything I need to know about the way you think. It's overwhelmingly sanctimonious.

I understand why you would think that, and I did too at first, but I'd encourage you to give the post another read. What the author's trying to do is precisely the opposite. He wants a good social script to ensure he's not sanctimonious or argumentative: he's sure your brisket is great, he's got no problem with you and your friends enjoying it, but he's not personally interested in it because he doesn't eat meat.

Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism

#40

Given the capabilities of upcoming LLMs, I suspect that by mid-2027, most competent companies, outside specific niches, will not hire and might fire any non-senior “generative AI vegetarian” software developer. Note: I agree with others that another term should be used instead of ‘vegetarian’. “LLM vegetarians” do not hold the same moral values as vegetarians.

Believing in the capabilities of _upcoming_ LLMs that you have never actually used shows that you buy into marketing and hype very easily. No one really knows what the future will look like and there's an equally plausible one where post-subsidy token economics become impossible to justify for most use cases.
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