I like the idea, but it needs a better name. Vegetarianism already means something very specific. Maybe something like Sloppite. Sloppitism. Something like that.
I happily call myself a luddite.
Generative AI Vegetarianism
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Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism
#12Vegetarianism is such a bad label lol
Just say GenAI-free; organic software (written by organic agents as opposed to silicon-based ones); or, literally anything that actually means what you wrote.
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#13To draw an incredibly stretched comparison to vegetarianism instantly tells me everything I need to know about the way you think. It's overwhelmingly sanctimonious.
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#14I like the idea, but it needs a better name. Vegetarianism already means something very specific. Maybe something like Sloppite. Sloppitism. Something like that.
Does anyone know if there’s a pithy German word for “those against letting machines do their thinking”?
Not sure why it has to be German. "Butlerian" seems the obvious choice.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Luddite already exists
I agree. Luddites need to reclaim the name. Their demands were reasonable.
Why not live like the luddites won? Why not move to a cabin in the middle of the forest and only live with the level of technology they wanted to stay at under the guise of "protecting skilled labour" (all technology since 1785 merely being a lazy shortcut).
Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism
#16I prefer "slop-free".
Example usage: "I met a fellow slop-free human. We decided to a baby together without asking chatgpt for advice. Are we crazy or what?"
Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism
#17I like the idea, but it needs a better name. Vegetarianism already means something very specific. Maybe something like Sloppite. Sloppitism. Something like that.
Does anyone know if there’s a pithy German word for “those against letting machines do their thinking”?
how about "Maschinensturm", a German word closely associated with luddites?
Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism
#18To draw an incredibly stretched comparison to vegetarianism instantly tells me everything I need to know about the way you think. It's overwhelmingly sanctimonious.
Can you expand on that a bit?
Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism
#19Vegetarianism is such a bad label lol Just say GenAI-free; organic software (written by organic agents as opposed to silicon-based ones); or, literally anything that actually means what you wrote.
What makes "organic software" better than vegetarianism?
Re: Generative AI Vegetarianism
#20The term "GenAI veganism" is deeply disingenuous, and simonw knew exactly what he was doing when he coined it.
In the broader context of most human societies treating meat consumption as a default, with thousands of years of precedent, it deliberately frames abstaining from the use of "GenAI" as an extreme perspective, suggesting that moderate or extensive usage of LLMs and their ilk is more intrinsically "normal". The "GenAI" tools in question have only existed for a few years- or perhaps months in more specific cases- and the unending marketing blitz around them notwithstanding, using them does not remotely represent an engrained cultural default.
The choice of terminology also casually devalues and denigrates the reasons many people have for being actual vegans. It's meant to sneeringly evoke negative stereotypes of vegans as annoying and irrational.
Attempting to carve out a "softened" version of this language with the "vegetarian" label is not descriptively useful.