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Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alright, take a park closing then. Can you be sad about that if you haven't personally raised money to finance the park?

I pay taxes. I pay for every park in my city. I pay for state and national parks too. I rarely/never use them. I have no choice. That makes me sad. I wish I could direct where my personal tax dollars were spent, but that kind of defeats the point of taxes, which are to fund the things that nobody wants to pay for (or are impractical to pay for, individually).

Ah the "I would pay for firefox but" fallacy

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#124

i wish the guy could have made a paid version so he could have continued it. Unfortunately, most people do not want to financially contribute to open source and especially when that open source project becomes a paid product.

adding to that, lots of devs don’t want the hassle of running a software business

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Plenty of comments of "So sad I have been using this". How many actually contributed back to keep it going?

How often are the consumers and users of tools like this also in positions to contribute financially? It's silly, but I can spin up $10000 worth of azure resources and nobody would mind (as long as they actally had a purpose etc). In contrast I doubt I'd ever get a decisionmaker to sign off on supporting an OSS project with even $50, even if we have tech that depends on it.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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Open Source has worked fine here. The author doesn't find financial support for the work, so they just want to change winds and that's a perfectly fine path forward. If this is really much more than a personal project "for fun, on my leisure time", and it became an actually serious product -level project that provides good value in commercial environments for people, there's clearly an opportunity for a for-profit co…

I wonder whether the author has considered taking the product to a paid level and what would be necessary for it. Obviously, all contributors have some form of copyright, which may or may not have been waived depending on whether there was an ACL in place and jurisdiction. So he would need to get permission from the copyright holders, maybe in exchange for a percentage of the profit.

Changing the license of already existing code? You might not be able to do that without permission from other contributors, I agree.

But it's MIT license. We can open a company tomorrow, take that code, and start selling it. Further development and improvements of the code could be trivially done openly or behind closed doors. FWIW the author themselves could do that if they wanted.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

#127
Is it really that much effort to maintain something? I’ll admit I haven’t the foggiest, my most maintained thing having like 200 stars or something, but if I leave it alone for half a year it doesn’t suddenly combust into flame.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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It's funny how developer time is considered free, but tokens are not. In other words when it comes to FOSS contribution, developer time can be donated but tokens can't - so as we move into agentic code era all FOSS development carries a cost unless it is purely done by hand (which more often it isn't). Not saying this is what is going on here but it's presumably a factor if the author was looking for an employer to s…

I don’t understand this? I donate plenty of tokens towards OSS.

I guess it’s anthropic donating the tokens because they give me about $5k of API tokens for the $200 I pay them.

Re: Pgbackrest is no longer being maintained

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This is scary as a solo dev who builts on postgresql. You pick a tool trust it, build around it, one day it stops. Oss sustainability is a real problem

I would say "unpaid tool use" is a real problem. Or perhaps "contractless" is actually touching the core issue?
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