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Re: Moleskine's AI Lord of the Rings collection can only mock

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I find this post baffling. Would one normally demand angrily to find out whether someone used photoshop when making a product mockup? If not, why is this different? It only makes sense if you’ve made a political decision that anything associated with AI is bad, regardless of whether you would otherwise like it.

There're a strong disdain agains any AI among the artists. I've seen these kind of comments many times, like people getting upset someone uses AI-generated profile pic in Discord. I get that they're scared. They should be: it was difficult to make a living for many artists even before AI. The market was already oversaturated and they had to accept low-paying irregular jobs. But now there's literally no light in the e…

Well, also, I mean, the output is generally bad.

(AI 'art' also has the fascinating, and possibly unique, property that, the more you look at it, the worse it is; it is fractally bad, in that the badness tends to crop up in small details more than anywhere else. I actually kind of enjoy it in small doses for this reason; it's fun to play "spot the broken thing".)

Re: Moleskine's AI Lord of the Rings collection can only mock

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There're a strong disdain agains any AI among the artists. I've seen these kind of comments many times, like people getting upset someone uses AI-generated profile pic in Discord. I get that they're scared. They should be: it was difficult to make a living for many artists even before AI. The market was already oversaturated and they had to accept low-paying irregular jobs. But now there's literally no light in the e…

Something I read elsewhere was "if someone is using an AI avatar, they were never going to be your customer anyway". I used to commission avatars every year or two from a specific artist. It wasn't super cheap (hundreds of dollars). At the end of the day though, spending hundreds of dollars, waiting weeks, and then maybe getting 85% of what I wanted doesn't make sense when I could instead spend ~$0, wait 30 seconds,…

This is very foreign to my way of thinking.

I commission artists somewhat regularly, and if I had to name the top two reasons, they would be 1) I really like their style, and want a piece in that style 2) I want to support them so they can continue making the art I like.

Meeting my checklist of inclusions is important, but definitely secondary to the reasons above. (And sometimes the deviations are reflections of the artist's particular style and therefore welcome.)

Re: Moleskine's AI Lord of the Rings collection can only mock

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post #44

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Look at the names on the map. You don't need to be a LOTR superfan to tell something is off.

So it's not actually about AI at all? It's about it being incorrect?

It's incorrect because it was lazily AI-generated. Most modern AI image generators can handle this if you're the least bit thoughtful.

Re: Moleskine's AI Lord of the Rings collection can only mock

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"There is also this notebook that features a map, which is included in the Instagram post but is nowhere to be found on the website. The map is too blurry to make out properly, but the geography looks inconsistent with other maps of Middle-earth." Absolutely unconscionable. Ads need to be truthful. They can't just make things up that aren't actually in the product. It's literally false advertising. I'm not against AI…

> Ads need to be truthful. Since when? Ads are full of made up shit. Even the products are often presented in a way where it's obvious that something is not real.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/52#a

Re: Moleskine's AI Lord of the Rings collection can only mock

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I find this post baffling. Would one normally demand angrily to find out whether someone used photoshop when making a product mockup? If not, why is this different? It only makes sense if you’ve made a political decision that anything associated with AI is bad, regardless of whether you would otherwise like it.

How can you trust the product itself is faithful and doesn't have a map full of gibberish slop? Isn't (wasn't) moleskine a premium brand?

How can you trust that the product is “faithful” if a human makes it? You look at it.

And if you don’t know LOTR lore well enough to be able to do that, why do you care?

Re: Moleskine's AI Lord of the Rings collection can only mock

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Because the existing cultural understanding of art is that someone took the time to create what you’re experiencing. AI generated “art” subverts that expectation. It feels deceptive. Honestly it reminds of Duchamp’s Fountain and similar works, which some people hated for more or less the same reason. I am not equating AI slop with Marcel Duchamp, however. His work and what he did was very much intentional to evoke th…

Moleskin is selling notebooks, not art. They happen to come with graphical elements, but I don't see them claiming those are art. So where is the deception?

I’m speaking about negative reactions toward AI created imagery.

Re: Moleskine's AI Lord of the Rings collection can only mock

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> when the current art is a reference to, and for fans of, art that was all about authenticity Was it? Was the reason you enjoyed it because a human wrote it? Highly doubtful

I think you've misunderstood me. The Lord of the Rings has authenticity as one of its main themes. This is part of the work itself, not to do with its provenance.

What does it mean for a thing to be “authentic”? Tolkien hasn’t created anything since he passed away. I hear they used computers to some extent when making the lord of the rings movies, something Tolkien certainly would not have done. Should we thus criticize the movies on the basis of their authenticity?

Re: Moleskine's AI Lord of the Rings collection can only mock

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> Moleskine have not provided evidence of completely human-made artwork for the covers > but they also have not credited an artist or provided any proof of human creation What kind of "evidence" or "proof" would satisfy the poster?

Pitchfork-and-torch-wielders are generally reluctant to put them down, regardless of what their target says.

Re: Moleskine's AI Lord of the Rings collection can only mock

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"There is also this notebook that features a map, which is included in the Instagram post but is nowhere to be found on the website. The map is too blurry to make out properly, but the geography looks inconsistent with other maps of Middle-earth." Absolutely unconscionable. Ads need to be truthful. They can't just make things up that aren't actually in the product. It's literally false advertising. I'm not against AI…

Here's the page for the notebooks-with-maps: https://www.moleskine.com/en-us/shop/limited-editions/the-lo...

They aren't talking about the products themselves, they are talking about the ad images, such as [1], which yes, appear to be pretty obvious slop.

1: https://i0.wp.com/cjleo.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Moles...

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