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The 1944 Warsaw Uprising, in Color
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#72uprising together with Germans against russia invasion, and it garnered sympathy from many Chinese people --- though Polish people are anti-Chinese for religious and communism (maybe also religious) reasons
I don't think there's any such sentiment in Poland; in fact, this research points to (slightly) positive sentiment of the Polish towards the Chinese: https://www.cbos.pl/SPISKOM.POL/2026/K_016_26.PDF
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#73Don't forget that Germans were able to quickly find people they wanted to exterminate by going through municipal and church records. Today it will be much easier thanks to push for Digital ID. Choose demographic and the dashboard will show where everyone is and their connections.
Digital ID? Kiddos <25 years old give away 3D face scans and fingerprints at the gym, grocery store, and in the gambling mobile app.
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#74Don't forget that Germans were able to quickly find people they wanted to exterminate by going through municipal and church records. Today it will be much easier thanks to push for Digital ID. Choose demographic and the dashboard will show where everyone is and their connections.
The choosen demographic in Poland was easy to find without any records. Jews were mostly orthodox and easily visibly different and poor. Polish were basically "anyone there" no records necessary.
They were going after key people like academics, engineers, doctors, artists first.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was definitely not planned with the Soviets, for multiple reasons: - the Poles of the AK (London government loyal) were not the communist faction (Lublin government loyal), and saw the insurrection as the last chance to get a Poland out of the Soviet sphere of influence post WWII – especially after the publicization of Katyn; - even if they had wanted, Stalin had zero interest in giving a hand to London-loyal Pole…
> So the London-loyal Poles were in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, and at least they were able to go with a glorious bang. Many argue this uprising is nothing to be proud of and the crime of the leadership with devastating results: ~200k civilians went with this bang, and city completely wiped out.
Some would argue the same way about the Gaza uprising.
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#76Don't forget that Germans were able to quickly find people they wanted to exterminate by going through municipal and church records. Today it will be much easier thanks to push for Digital ID. Choose demographic and the dashboard will show where everyone is and their connections.
Germany already has religion logged in the Melderegister
This was voluntarily before 2022 and has been removed entirely since 2022:
https://www.bundestag.de/dokumente/textarchiv/2022/kw39-de-p...
https://www.vaticannews.va/de/kirche/news/2022-10/deutschlan...
Re: The 1944 Warsaw Uprising, in Color
#77uprising together with Germans against russia invasion, and it garnered sympathy from many Chinese people --- though Polish people are anti-Chinese for religious and communism (maybe also religious) reasons
> uprising together with Germans against russia invasion
Please educate yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising
Maybe you've been confused by some of the resistance fighters wearing German helmets?
The Germans crushed the uprising because the Soviets conveniently stopped their advance, giving the Germans time to focus on the Polish resistance, which was convenient for the Soviets because it eliminated a potential "problem" for the Soviet occupation of Poland after WW2.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
The choosen demographic in Poland was easy to find without any records. Jews were mostly orthodox and easily visibly different and poor. Polish were basically "anyone there" no records necessary.
They were going after key people like academics, engineers, doctors, artists first.
Yeah the Nazis had future plans for Poland. The idea was to make the entire country into illiterate slaves.
A lot of people don't know that although what the Nazis did was obviously terrible it was nothing compared to what they wanted to do.
Poland survived 60 years of communism. It would not have survived national socialism.
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#79Harrowing. For those who don't know, the Uprising was a planned resistance action to expel the Nazis from Warsaw. Supposedly it was planned in collaboration with the Russians. But the Russian army stood down while the resistance fought alone for two months. This allowed the Germans to regroup, fight back, and eventually to destroy the city, and most of the resistance itself.
It was an attempt of the Polish resistance to avoid being "liberated" by the Soviets to just immediately become occupied by the communist red army. The idea being to liberate Warsaw and get US/UK assistance through the Polish government-in-exile in London to establish Polish military control before the Soviet army arrived. Getting US/UK support could have meant that Poland remained an independent state. Instead, Stal…
The West aren't entirely the good guys here.
My own city was liberated by Polish troops. After WW2 they obviously couldn't go back to Poland. A lot of them ended up in relative poverty after the war.
At least Canadians and Australians went back home and got a parade.
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#80Don't forget that Germans were able to quickly find people they wanted to exterminate by going through municipal and church records. Today it will be much easier thanks to push for Digital ID. Choose demographic and the dashboard will show where everyone is and their connections.
The choosen demographic in Poland was easy to find without any records. Jews were mostly orthodox and easily visibly different and poor. Polish were basically "anyone there" no records necessary.
That's a big simplification. There were plenty of ethnic Jews who already converted to Catholicism (or remained atheist) and identified as regular Polish citizens. There were also mixed families who were exterminated as a whole nonetheless.