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Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #114

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An article on this did the rounds a few months ago and suddenly everyone quotes it as gospel truth. Unfortunately, it's not. What will happen is that you'll get somewhat better at digesting lactose as your gut bacteria learn to partially compensate for your lack of ability to produce lactase enzyme. If you're only slightly lactose intolerant that might be sufficient. But for many people it would just make a bad healt…

Lactose issues are fascinating. Some peop’e are triggered by pasturized milk, others can't handle milk at all. Some people can only handle cooked milk, others cheese until limits. For some lactose works, and for others not - to the point of upsetting stomachs. There's even compelling annecdotes (to my knowledge, no research) indicating that adding a couple of drops of any citrus to milk helps some people. For some re…

I can drink milk with no digestive distress, but within a week will have a full face of acne.

Spent many years and many thousands of $$ on skincare products trying to figure that out. I now avoid dairy and have excellent skin.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #109

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Not to dismiss the experience of Brazil, but Korea believed you would die if you had an electric fan on with no windows open. Safe to say entire countries are not infallible either.

Brazilian here. It's not a superstition, I can see my wife's belly literally inflate if the process is not done correctly. I cook beans at least once a week, I've made mistakes and there's no way to hide it. We don't get them cooked from delivery as we don't know how they were prepared, lesson also learned the hard way. That said, the process is soaking the beans in water for, at least, 10 hours. You have to change t…

Yeah, boiling water with lemon helps, but without it my wife has a lot more gases. One article that they tested, can't explain it properly and we have seen over and over working, I very much don't believe they did it right

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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As a vegan who consumes plenty of legumes, I researched the topic and found this useful patent: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/88/c7/d6/daddb53...

I boiled it down to the following steps (pun intended): 1. Rinse the beans. 2. Soak for several hours in room-temperature water, replacing the water 2-3 times. 3. Soak for several hours in ~130°F water, replacing the water 2-3 times (I use Yogurt mode on my Instant Pot, as it lets you set a temperature and hold it for hours). 4. Cook'em as you normally would.

Cooked beans freeze well, so I usually make large batches and freeze them in Ziplock bags for later use.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #53

Not related to beans, but I had serious issues with bloating, gas and bad smell comparable to sewage. It went on for years until I had a short massage to adjust my stomach, the lady was pushing and shifting things around. This was a few months ago. Ever since I haven't had that type of gas, and I burp now which I haven't for years. I didn't change my diet at all.

Not my field, but I wonder if this could have been a case of a bezoar of some kind, perhaps Phytobezoar[0], that got loosened by the massage? After seeing reports[1] a few years back about the use of Coke as a non invasive way to clean these out, I now drink the stuff when my stomach is upset. With n=1 I can report it has a real effect on me. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytobezoar [1]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.ni…

I clicked the link out of interest but am quite happy that the article had no image.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #92
post #53

Not related to beans, but I had serious issues with bloating, gas and bad smell comparable to sewage. It went on for years until I had a short massage to adjust my stomach, the lady was pushing and shifting things around. This was a few months ago. Ever since I haven't had that type of gas, and I burp now which I haven't for years. I didn't change my diet at all.

Years of digestive issues resolved by a single massage? I've never heard of an outcome like that before. Could you explain more about how it worked and what this lady's approach purported to do? Who was she? Genuinely curious!

Sounded like alternative medicine, but it was supposedly centering my stomach or adjusting the intestines to be in their optimal place, e.g. some people have organ displacement, the stomach is too low or too high, and somehow that affects digestion and health.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #53

Not related to beans, but I had serious issues with bloating, gas and bad smell comparable to sewage. It went on for years until I had a short massage to adjust my stomach, the lady was pushing and shifting things around. This was a few months ago. Ever since I haven't had that type of gas, and I burp now which I haven't for years. I didn't change my diet at all.

Did the massage trigger a giant fart? I would be terrified of somebody massaging my stomach, lol

It felt uncomfortable and I needed to pass gas but managed to hold it.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #53

Not related to beans, but I had serious issues with bloating, gas and bad smell comparable to sewage. It went on for years until I had a short massage to adjust my stomach, the lady was pushing and shifting things around. This was a few months ago. Ever since I haven't had that type of gas, and I burp now which I haven't for years. I didn't change my diet at all.

Not my field, but I wonder if this could have been a case of a bezoar of some kind, perhaps Phytobezoar[0], that got loosened by the massage? After seeing reports[1] a few years back about the use of Coke as a non invasive way to clean these out, I now drink the stuff when my stomach is upset. With n=1 I can report it has a real effect on me. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytobezoar [1]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.ni…

Could be, almost like something was trapped and fermented inside.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #33

Yes. You just eat beans a lot. After a few months it stops making you gassy until you eat a type of bean you have never eaten before and then you are back to square one. Source: vegan who eats beans with 75+% of meals

Reminds me of the cure for lactose intolerance: You just have to keep drinking milk until your microbiomes adapts.

Lactose intolerance principally derives from a failure of the human body, not the microbiome, to produce the enzyme lactase which breaks down the sugar lactose.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance>

The gut biome may play some role, but it's secondary and limited, see:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8666824/>

All humans (and all mammals) produce lactase as infants and children, but many lose that capacity in adulthood. Several populations (Northern Europeans, some North Africans, and a few elsewhere) inherit a mutation which continues lactase production in adulthood. Many parts of the world, notably east Asia and the Americas (indigenous populations) lack that mutation and adults tolerate unfermented milk products poorly.

Fermented products (cheese, yoghurt, keifer, doogh, buttermilk) tend to have most of the lactate converted in the fermentation process, and tend to be better tolerated.

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