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Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article mentions they tested this, and it didn't work.

> These tests blew me away. At the very least, I expected that presoaking the beans and pitching the water would reduce fartiness. After all, the sugars are water soluble, so they should leach into the soaking water and get discarded. As it turns out, not so much. I still don’t understand this result. I don’t buy it. He’s says it doesn’t work but can’t explain why it didn’t work. Could be his method was faulty, the t…

> I rather take the experience of an entire country.

I wouldn’t.

Mexicans think rubbing the ends of a cucumber makes it less bitter.

It’s all superstition until you put it to the test.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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I consume legumes daily and found that using baking soda completely eliminated gaseous emissions from them. For lentils, I soak 20 g in water with 1/4 tsp baking soda for a hour. Then discard the liquid before cooking. For refried black beans I first bring 65 g of beans to simmer then add 1/4 tsp baking soda and stir briskly. Once I implemented this protocol I found that onions and prunes were also causing gas. Seems…

Do you notice any flavor profile changes?

They become much darker in color but I have not noticed a change in flavor. I discovered this technique from an episode of America’s Test Kitchen on PBS.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #95

I consume legumes daily and found that using baking soda completely eliminated gaseous emissions from them. For lentils, I soak 20 g in water with 1/4 tsp baking soda for a hour. Then discard the liquid before cooking. For refried black beans I first bring 65 g of beans to simmer then add 1/4 tsp baking soda and stir briskly. Once I implemented this protocol I found that onions and prunes were also causing gas. Seems…

You're almost pickling them in citrus at that point.

Pretty much, yep. The point is to neutralize the indigestible sugars through chemical or enzymatic action. So there should be a solution to any given type of food which causes gas. Just need to find the right trigger.

Side note… Fermentation is a technique humans used for millennia, but modern technology has replaced that with methods that fail to neutralize those indigestible elements. So I also use lacto fermentation on various foods.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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Nice read! For the impatient: they found no common cooking technique that helped significantly reduce - as they call it the “fartyness” of the beans..

It's the best part of beans though. Everybody loves their own brand.

this guy says he loves his farts

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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If you are unfamiliar with the author, Dave Arnold is a former instructor at the French Culinary Institute, a bar owner/operator in NYC (Booker & Dax (closed), Existing Conditions (closed), and Bar Contra ( https://www.barcontra.com )), a cooking equipment designer and manufacturer ( https://www.bookeranddax.com ), sharer of lots of knowledge (e.g. https://cookingissues.com/primers/sous-vide/part-i-introduct... ), Ja…

I just want to dap this comment about Dave Arnold. If you’re a nerd (science nerd) who likes food then Dave is your guy. His podcast is great and if you want to blow away your next Thanksgiving meal, find his stuffing recipe.

I'd also recommend Chris Young on YouTube who also uses science based rather than tradition based methods of modern cooking, such as making a consomme without lots of effort as French chefs would tell you to do.

https://youtube.com/@ChrisYoungCooks

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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About 50% of people just don't get gassy from beans to begin with, and 70% of those who do adapt within weeks, according to https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51819295_Perception...

My casual observation is that people's perception of bean's gas causing properties is way out of line with what they do for most people and strongly influenced by people who have unusually high intolerance, who are the minority.

A part of the article that irked me is where he talks about why he's going to ignore people who say you get used to it because he thinks the microbiome change doesn't make sense misunderstands the gas/bacteria process in the gut.

There is a big mix of FODMAP eating bacteria, both inefficient generalists that can eat FODMAP but do it poorly and create a lot of gas, but also specialist bacteria like Bifidobacterium that also eat them but are much more efficient at it and produce much less gas. With more food the specialist bacteria becomes more prevalent. There are also gas consuming bacteria, not just gas producing, which also will shift in population. The idea is not that you just grow a larger population of the existing problematic bacteria.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These tests blew me away. At the very least, I expected that presoaking the beans and pitching the water would reduce fartiness. After all, the sugars are water soluble, so they should leach into the soaking water and get discarded. As it turns out, not so much. I still don’t understand this result. I don’t buy it. He’s says it doesn’t work but can’t explain why it didn’t work. Could be his method was faulty, the t…

Not to dismiss the experience of Brazil, but Korea believed you would die if you had an electric fan on with no windows open. Safe to say entire countries are not infallible either.

Brazilian here. It's not a superstition, I can see my wife's belly literally inflate if the process is not done correctly. I cook beans at least once a week, I've made mistakes and there's no way to hide it. We don't get them cooked from delivery as we don't know how they were prepared, lesson also learned the hard way.

That said, the process is soaking the beans in water for, at least, 10 hours. You have to change the water four or five times during this period and toss the water at the end.

On the other hand, adding bay leaves are totally a superstition. Saw my mother-in-law trying to hide she forgot to soak the beans overnight by adding bay leaves and my wife had a bad aftermath.

Re: Can you stop beans from making you gassy?

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post #53

Not related to beans, but I had serious issues with bloating, gas and bad smell comparable to sewage. It went on for years until I had a short massage to adjust my stomach, the lady was pushing and shifting things around. This was a few months ago. Ever since I haven't had that type of gas, and I burp now which I haven't for years. I didn't change my diet at all.

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