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> Ukraine is "receiving money from others"? Factually correct. > We are benefactors of the Ukrainians' bravery and sacrifices. Who's we? > How much money could we have not spent if Hitler had been stopped in Czechoslovakia? Very different situation, in all aspects.
You see zero similarities between Hitler invading Poland and Putin invading Ukraine?
The West forgot how to make things, now it’s forgetting how to code
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Re: The West forgot how to make things, now it’s forgetting how to code
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So you see people who don't care about programming, joining and getting comfortable with vscode and claude code and devops? Because it seems to me like there's a lot of coding-adjacent things they still need to be able to do even if they never look at a line of code.
Those examples are nonsensical. None of those are necessary to get working code. The VSCode example is particularly baffling. Firstly, I’m sure you understand there are other editors people use for code; secondly, I know even people who don’t code who have picked up VSCode for text editing and are fine with it.
Re: The West forgot how to make things, now it’s forgetting how to code
#283I still code daily without any coding assistance mostly because I believe this is the way to not forget how things are done, even trivial things. My main point against using AI is that I do not want to depend basically on anything when I'm in front of the screen (obviously not including, documentation, books, SO and alike). I closely see people that are 100% dependent on AI for literally everything, even the most tri…
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Yes, many Americans and other Westerners believe that the so-called "socialist" economies, like those of the Soviet Union and of Eastern Europe were non-capitalist. This is only an illusion created by the fact that the communists were careful to rename all important things, to fool the weaker minds that the renamed things are something else than what they really are. In reality, the "socialist" economies were more ca…
Everyone wants to tag the evil with their opposition's name. The evil is concentration of power. But no one wants to call it that because then they can't pretend that it's something different when they're doing it themselves. Witness the people who keep proposing to solve market consolidation with higher taxes. Higher taxes go to the government, and therefore the interests that have captured the government. Are we go…
Re: The West forgot how to make things, now it’s forgetting how to code
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There’s even a management tutorial game which demonstrates the dangers of removing too much slack from systems. It’s called The Beer Game[1]. One of the funny things about it is even people that have played and discussed it before _still_ make the same fundamental mistakes next time. Short-termism is the death of companies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_distribution_game
Wut? The point of the beer game is that buffering in the supply chain makes the bullwhip effect worse.
Re: The West forgot how to make things, now it’s forgetting how to code
#286The real issue, in my view, is not AI itself. The problem is a management pattern: removing people and organizational slack because they don’t generate immediate profit, and then expecting the knowledge to still be there when it’s needed. Short-term cost cutting leads to less junior hiring, and removes the slack that experienced engineers need in order to teach. As a result, tacit knowledge stops being transferred. W…
> What AI is being sold as right now is not really productivity. In many domains, productivity is already sufficient. What’s being sold is workforce reduction. And workforce reduction is a nobel goal. In fact, I think it's one of the most important things humanity should focus on. We should strive for a workforce of zero. Humans currently was an enormous amount of their life working instead of more worthwhile pursuit…
And uh, healthcare. Among other things.
Re: The West forgot how to make things, now it’s forgetting how to code
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They agreed that war was a thing of the past, but still continued to push for NATO to allow new members anyway, ironically causing Russia (and China and everyone who is NOT in NATO) to suspect that war was NOT a thing of the past and therefore never quite abandoning their military completely. Unpopular opinion: the West should either NEVER have abandoned its military production (so as to maintain NATO actual prepared…
USA had no part in that push?
https://time.com/archive/6731121/how-clinton-decided-on-nato...
Re: The West forgot how to make things, now it’s forgetting how to code
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Those examples are nonsensical. None of those are necessary to get working code. The VSCode example is particularly baffling. Firstly, I’m sure you understand there are other editors people use for code; secondly, I know even people who don’t code who have picked up VSCode for text editing and are fine with it.
I think you haven't dealt with a lot of non-coders. 90% of the world will not be able to even open a .py
And I think you should avoid making assumptions about people you know nothing about. That is so far from the truth it’s not even funny.
> 90% of the world will not be able to even open a .py
Which is nowhere near my argument. I’d appreciate if you engaged with what I said or not at all.
Re: The West forgot how to make things, now it’s forgetting how to code
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Not Russia, Eastern Europe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO
So, NATO hasn't advanced into Russia then? Just Russia advancing into the Ukraine (after promising not to if the USSR nukes were given to Russia)? Gotcha.
Re: The West forgot how to make things, now it’s forgetting how to code
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A writer will never forget what adjectives, verbs, and nouns are. But if they use LLMs to write for them for years they will be worse at writing on their own.
Well, what I'm trying to say here is that coding is conveying logic, the way you'd evaluate it is how fit it is for its purpose, and if it's long term code, how well it will scale into future. Now writing is something totally different. In some cases writing ability is not about writing, it's about your thoughts and understanding of life and human nature. You could simply become a better writer without not writing an…
To become a better X to must do more of X. There are few shortcuts worthwhile.