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Re: Google Flow Music

#31
Really not a fan of the "ChatGPT" style UI, did they even look at something like Suno at all? This is a little silly to me.

The music sounds decent, I feel like its missing some things, to be fair Suno still doesn't know what a Puerto Rican guiro is. I assume a lot of these AI platforms will take many iterations.

Things Suno needs to figure out and maybe Google now too, is how to let someone pick a specific voice, and get a rather unique voice, I've heard a few songs in Suno with similar voices to my own songs, and its kind of weird.

I do love making the songs as a hobby, so not a big deal. All in all, AI music is really fun to toy with, especially blending genres together.

One very noticeable difference against Suno is Google Flow Music lets you make Music Videos, which I have yet to test. I wonder if I can use my Suno songs to make music videos for them, not sure I'm vibing with Google's Music AI yet.

Aside: Makes me chuckle a little, since "Flow Music" is a reggaeton catch phrase by Arcangel who would always say "Flow Music" even though it was always called "Flow Factory" he would call it Flow Music.

Edit:

There's some awkward factors Google will need to work out, while the instruments and voices sound nice and clear, the rythm feels weirdly off for some songs, its like the voices are not matching the genre mix, its also missing some nuances I've asked for, I assume it does not know what "wobble bass" means. Suno lets you describe nuanced specific sounds or instruments and uses them how you describe.

I told it to have a dubstep breakdown in the middle, it keeps the artist singing / rapping, which is bizarre, that's not how a breakdown would be...

Suno takes great care to make sure the voice always matches whatever is going on with the beat, including humming the beat / bass / brass / whatever instruments are being played.

Glad Suno is going to have some real competition, I just hope Google doesn't kill Suno with its bigger wallet, would be a shame.

Edit:

Final verdict from me is, it feels like less polished than Suno in terms of music, but more features. Suno lacks music creation which still annoys me they let you make a lyric video that's one single orientation / resolution, you have zero control over it otherwise.

There's a "workspace builder" which you prompt and it builds a web app that lets you create songs and what not, not sure what all the features of it is, but it is interesting as well.

If they get this more on par with Suno, they might for the first time ever take money from me since I left the Android / Google platform many moons ago.

Re: Google Flow Music

#32

What I really hate about all of this, whether it’s music, images, video or anything else, is how much they all use the word “create.” As in, you can create the music you’ve always imagined. You. Are. Not. Creating. Anything. You are prompting. Then tweaking, changing, adjusting, etc. The tech is incredible, don’t get me wrong, but it’s advertised so blatantly as the user doing the creating. Use it as a creativity too…

It's worse than that: the creativity and originality I put in my prompts, it extinguishes, and instead churns out unoriginal formulaic crap. The crap sounds exquisite and realistic though.

Re: Google Flow Music

#34
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to 2026's reality, most new music is already AI-generated. I don't like it, but it is what it is. YT Music is already full of AI slop, those tools aren't changing that. If anything it gives Google control of the entire production->sale->delivery process. I'm honestly not seeing a downside for Google here, can you elaborate?

I just keep reporting AI slop videos (incl music) on YT, and sometimes the videos or even entire channel vanish. I hope I'm contributing to this process to keep YT safe, but I'm just one guy, and they probably have a much bigger effort internally. The downside for Google is, ultimately, the death of the company. Nobody wants AI slop, and go out of their way to actively avoid it and punish companies that promote it. G…

The people in charge here don’t give a fuck about the long term. Reap as much profits for yourself as you can before everything inevitably collapses - that’s the prevailing current trend. Let the lizard brain take over and just feel good in the moment, why worry about the future.

Re: Google Flow Music

#35
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I’m a little confused about the pricing packages. In what scenario would being able to create 600 songs a month (20/day) be too few? I could understand if this was an API that people built products around, but it seems to be geared directly at consumers.

I don't know anything about these AI tools, but it seems to me like, the yield rates of all these AI media generators are exactly in the range of that of lootbox games. Kids "pull" it like slot machines for set prompt, keeping no more than 1% of outputs. The rest is just thrown away, only potentially useful as negative data. So 600 per month total is probably like just couples per month usable.

Re: Google Flow Music

#36

This website looks so terrible that I can't tell if it's really owned by Google or a scam.

Agreed - I have been checking to verify whether this truly is a Google service or just something that links out to generic Google ToS and Support pages. It looks suspicious.

Re: Google Flow Music

#38
This is their recent acquisition (producer.ai) rebranded.

Before the purchase, the quality of generations had been going down for a while (IMO; subjective and anecdotal). I tested multiple iterations of their chat interface and was never thrilled with its ability to actually understand or adhere to prompts. I had liked their previous (Suno/Udio-like) iteration (Riffusion).

Curious to hear how it performs for people now and whether anything has improved.

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