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Re: Google Flow Music

#11

Post by recursive »

gnopgnip wrote: post #9
philringsmuth wrote: post #5

What I really hate about all of this, whether it’s music, images, video or anything else, is how much they all use the word “create.” As in, you can create the music you’ve always imagined. You. Are. Not. Creating. Anything. You are prompting. Then tweaking, changing, adjusting, etc. The tech is incredible, don’t get me wrong, but it’s advertised so blatantly as the user doing the creating. Use it as a creativity too…

How does that work with using a camera to take photos?

You press the button to capture the photo. As you note, a different verb is used. When I order take-out, I'm not "creating" it.

Re: Google Flow Music

#13

Post by DiabloD3 »

Why did Google bother?

They're a music store, they sell music, both to own, but also renting their vast library out.

Google should learn not to shit where they eat.

Re: Google Flow Music

#15

Post by MrZander »

Really bad at prompt adherence. Was trying to get it to compose a solo old time banjo piece. Couldn't get it to stop adding in backing instrumentals at all and it sounded too much like bluegrass style.

"solo banjo instrumental, strictly no other instruments" ... ten seconds later: drums, a fiddle, and a guitar join in.

Re: Google Flow Music

#16

Post by tredre3 »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #13

Why did Google bother? They're a music store, they sell music, both to own, but also renting their vast library out. Google should learn not to shit where they eat.

Welcome to 2026's reality, most new music is already AI-generated. I don't like it, but it is what it is. YT Music is already full of AI slop, those tools aren't changing that.

If anything it gives Google control of the entire production->sale->delivery process.

I'm honestly not seeing a downside for Google here, can you elaborate?

Re: Google Flow Music

#17

Post by wxw »

I asked it to make lofi cafe music and it just made a static web-page. When I asked why there wasn't any music, it said:

> My bad—I forgot to hook up the sound system.

And then it started playing jazz, which I'm not mad about. Nice to see Google trying fun stuff.

Re: Google Flow Music

#18

Post by DiabloD3 »

tredre3 wrote: post #16
DiabloD3 wrote: post #13

Why did Google bother? They're a music store, they sell music, both to own, but also renting their vast library out. Google should learn not to shit where they eat.

Welcome to 2026's reality, most new music is already AI-generated. I don't like it, but it is what it is. YT Music is already full of AI slop, those tools aren't changing that. If anything it gives Google control of the entire production->sale->delivery process. I'm honestly not seeing a downside for Google here, can you elaborate?

I just keep reporting AI slop videos (incl music) on YT, and sometimes the videos or even entire channel vanish. I hope I'm contributing to this process to keep YT safe, but I'm just one guy, and they probably have a much bigger effort internally.

The downside for Google is, ultimately, the death of the company. Nobody wants AI slop, and go out of their way to actively avoid it and punish companies that promote it. Google already is running a huge risk by pushing Gemini into every service, and permanently burning customers and users with it.

Microsoft is already seeing the downside of trying to Copilot everything. Their software is now partly slop, shit randomly breaks, companies cancel Azure/Office subscriptions and move to on-prem, FOSS, etc. They've pumped their brakes quite a lot, but the damage may be too great to mitigate now.

If Google wants to lose money in the long run, then by all means, please continue.

Re: Google Flow Music

#19

Post by kibibu »

xnx wrote: post #8
philringsmuth wrote: post #5

What I really hate about all of this, whether it’s music, images, video or anything else, is how much they all use the word “create.” As in, you can create the music you’ve always imagined. You. Are. Not. Creating. Anything. You are prompting. Then tweaking, changing, adjusting, etc. The tech is incredible, don’t get me wrong, but it’s advertised so blatantly as the user doing the creating. Use it as a creativity too…

Where do you draw the line? Do composers create?

Yes.

Does the guy who tells the composer "write a song" create?

No.

The line is somewhere in the middle

Re: Google Flow Music

#20

Post by 999900000999 »

dabinat wrote: post #2

I’m a little confused about the pricing packages. In what scenario would being able to create 600 songs a month (20/day) be too few? I could understand if this was an API that people built products around, but it seems to be geared directly at consumers.

Eminem allegedly has hundreds of songs in the vault.

Odds are for every 200 ai songs you generate , 2 or 3 are decent.

Anyway. UMG will probably force you to sign over training rights in future record deals.

The models still can't rap. Sounds like if you asked someone who didn't know what rap was to read a script

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