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Re: DeepSeek v4

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This price is high even because of the current shortage of inference cards available to DeepSeek; they claimed in their press release that once the Ascend 950 computing cards are launched in the second half of the year, the price of the Pro version will drop significantly

In six month deepseek won't be sota anymore und usage will be wayyyy down.

Well, if they distilled once…

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But remember to not ask about Taiwan!

Just ask it for a summary of the USA’s role in Iran, Gaza, Lebanon and its recent threats against Panama, Cuba and Greenland! It might be able to keep track.

Does all this insane behavior from the US justify the Chinese censorship?

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Open Source as it gets in this space, top notch developer documentation, and prices insanely low, while delivering frontier model capabilities. So basically, this is from hackers to hackers. Loving it! Also, note that there's zero CUDA dependency. It runs entirely on Huawei chips. In other words, Chinese ecosystem has delivered a complete AI stack. Like it or not, that's a big news. But what's there not to like when…

As a Brit I'm here for it to be honest, I'm tired of America with everything that's going on. China is not perfect but a bit of competition is healthy and needed

As a different Brit I do not accept such moral relativism.

China’s governments actions are on a completely different level - for example:

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Since 2014, the government of the People's Republic of China has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other Turkic Muslim minorities in Xinjiang which has often been characterized as persecution or as genocide.

“”” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/eas...

Yes Trump is clearly trying Totalitarianism in America, but it is orders of magnitude different from what is happening in China.

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Seriously, why can't huge companies like OpenAI and Google produce documentation that is half this good?? https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/thinking_mode No BS, just a concise description of exactly what I need to write my own agent.

I am very partial to Mistral's API docs https://docs.mistral.ai/api

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The incredible arrogance and hybris of the American initiated tech war - it is just a beautiful thing to see it slowly fall apart. The US-China contest aside - it is in the application layer llms will show their value. There the field, with llm commoditization and no clear monopolies, is wide open. There was a point in time where it looked like llms would the domain of a single well guarded monopoly - that would have…

Still not sure how I feel about China of all places to control the only alternative AI stack, but I guess it's better than leaving everything to the US alone. If China ever feels emboldened enough to go for Taiwan and the US descends into complete chaos, the rest of the world running on AI will be at the mercy of authoritarian regimes. At the very least you can be sure noone is in this for the good of the people anym…

I always find it an illuminating experience about the power of mass propaganda every time I see an American believe they somewhat have the moral high ground over China, despite starting a new war somewhere around the globe either for petrol or on behalf of Israel every six months.

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"not perfect" is a _very_ big simplification of what China is though

Isn't that the same to every major superpower?

Whatbaoutism at it's finest.

Have a peek at the fredom indx and the press freedom index for China. Guess where they stand?

You know about the chinese internet firewall.

You can't trust any data from the CCP.

And please don't equate the aberration that is the Trump administration with "regular" US administrations (and this is coming from a non US person).

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Just ask it for a summary of the USA’s role in Iran, Gaza, Lebanon and its recent threats against Panama, Cuba and Greenland! It might be able to keep track.

Are you implying that western models were manipulated to hide and distort those events, like they do with the Tiananmen Square event, and Taiwan?

History is by definition his story.

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Is there a harness that is as good as cloud code that can be used with open weight models?

I prefer OpenCode over Claude Code, and it works with basically everything. Give it a try. ymmv

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Open Source as it gets in this space, top notch developer documentation, and prices insanely low, while delivering frontier model capabilities. So basically, this is from hackers to hackers. Loving it! Also, note that there's zero CUDA dependency. It runs entirely on Huawei chips. In other words, Chinese ecosystem has delivered a complete AI stack. Like it or not, that's a big news. But what's there not to like when…

As a Brit I'm here for it to be honest, I'm tired of America with everything that's going on. China is not perfect but a bit of competition is healthy and needed

america is a continent. let’s take back our vocabulary (fellow european here). the little orange man shows very well what i mean when he started giving names to the gulf of mexico.
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