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Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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So let me ask this. What is the perfect mix of inerviews and durations? If you ask my blue collar friends, the answer is one and however long it takes to drink three beers. If you ask any married person, the onboarding process (courtship) may last YEARS and consist of many interviews (dates). As an EM, ive always struggled with this one. Im about to invest some serious coin and brainspace for you, so I tended towards…

What does a pilot or doctor or cop do in terms of interviews, take homes etc.?

> doctor

Rigorous formal education, multiple rigorous exams, then years of shadowing and training. I went through this process, and tech interviews are a breeze by comparison.

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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What does a pilot or doctor or cop do in terms of interviews, take homes etc.?

> doctor Rigorous formal education, multiple rigorous exams, then years of shadowing and training. I went through this process, and tech interviews are a breeze by comparison.

I think he meant - what's the interview process for a doctor while switching jobs.

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I’ve never worked at big tech but the usual interview process I’ve seen is one initial phone call to check both sides are on the same page and it’s worth scheduling an interview. Then a technical interview, sometimes a take home task, then a non technical interview with management. There’s no reason you need longer than that.

The "usual" process in big tech is a recruiter call, 1-2 technical screening calls (sometimes an EM call), then the main series of 3-6 domain knowledge interviews are done over 1-2 days. The latter are pretty grueling, especially when conducted on-site. Apple recommends you show up 1-2 hours ahead so you have enough time to get through security, for example.

That might be fine if they are offering incredible pay and conditions at a highly desirable company. But you get so many mid tier companies looking at Apple and Google and replicating their process without the pay or reason to put up with that process.

I just eject from the interview process when I hear it's going to be so many rounds because I know there will be another company that's just as good that will get it done with less.

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Let's be honest, Meta over hired. Big time. If anyone ever interviewed a few Meta engineers, he would easily see that a large percentage of them had really small, and sometimes bullshit scopes. As a result, such engineers couldn't articulate what they do in Meta, couldn't deep dive into their own tech stacks, nor could solve common-sense design questions when they just deviated a bit from those popular interview ques…

Meta has about 10% more employees now than they did at the end of 2021. They currently have less than half the employees of Google or Apple; only a third of Microsoft. If you're right, the rest of big tech is in a much worse position.

You're comparing Apples to Oranges (with Apple).

about half (80k) of the equivalent fulltime employees at Apple are involved in the store footprint, so they're retail staff in one of their main sales channels.

And as other's have pointed out, Apple has a far wider range of products and services than Meta, and produce far more hardware products, including their own cutting-edge SOC's. Meta, meanwhile, get Broadcom to largely produce their "custom ASIC's", not just fab, but deeply involved in design, tape out, and validation.

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Toxic = green brokerage accounts for those in charge

It would also be green for everyone else's brokerage account.

A few% pump is only a salary replacement for the poly-millionaires. Not for "everyone else."

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Are weekends off un-american too because it came from worker movements? Re: replies that one day off has been around much longer. Yes that’s what changed - the change was for 2 days off.

Saturday's off came from Exodus 20:8-11, about 1400 BC.

Yes I know it was that bad for that long. The worker movement was to expand that to two days.

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Remote coordination tools are no longer utter dogshit.

Sure, but there's no getting around how terrible it is to communicate and coordinate between PST and IST. One of the divisions I currently work with operates in a model where the "drivers" are all in the US and there's a large IST-based team that "executes". It's ... not great, and nobody on either side of the equation likes it. And all the people involved are very smart! But it really does matter, and we're seeing a…

Why are people so focused on India when it comes to outsourcing?

US dev salaries are so much higher than the rest of the world that basically you could hire anywhere in Europe and still save most of the cost per person.

You could go to LATAM if you want the same timezone.

On the corollary, salaries of capable Indian developers have certainly caught up to most Western countries, so that you wont be saving much per person.

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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I thought this will be 20% like we heard a few weeks ago. I am still waiting on the news that they are killing the quest headset though. It’s going to happen when mark finally lets go of this anchor

I think the Reuters article that preceded this said it would be 10% on 5/20, with more to come throughout 2026

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Given the same trend at Oracle and Amazon (1), it seems large corporations are cutting costs ahead of bad news... and that news isn't about AI.

It is about AI. The news is "the AI is far less monetarily lucrative endeavour than we thought but don't worry, we already fired enough people to compensate for the loss"

From what I can tell, its more about cashflow - basically companies need to spend most of their revenue or be taxed on it - and you can buy only so many servers.

Now capital can flow towards AI - I'm sure the reason why engineers at Boeing or GM don't make the same money as software devs do is that their industries are otherwise capital intensive, among other things.

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With the way people get added and removed from big tech, why is having worked at these companies still considered a badge of honor?

I don’t know if it’s a badge of honor, but it’s definitely highly desirable because they pay a lot. The term FAANG was originally coined to group together extremely high paying companies.

Basically, if you are L5 or above and can survive 4 years at Meta, you’re guaranteed to be a millionaire by the end of it. Go to levels.fyi and do the math yourself.

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