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Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by operatingthetan »

joenot443 wrote: post #246
pembrook wrote: post #243

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As someone who has worked at big tech (and interviewed fellow big tech workers), I can confirm this is pretty typical. People from Google, Meta, Microsoft, Apple, etc...it's all the same. Given the size of these organizations (anywhere from 100K-300K employees if you include contractors), there's a vanishingly small chance the individual you're interviewing had influence or responsibility over any important thing spe…

While at G I was one of three engineers working on a mid-sized iOS app. We shared ownership of the entirety of the codebase. It wasn't dissimilar to some of the other teams I've worked on at orgs of differing sizes. > The pace of work inside these orgs is, meet for months about a narrowly scoped new feature, take months to build it and run it up the organizational ladder for approval, launch it and then chill for 3 m…

I've contracted at several big tech companies and that other commenter is making stuff up. My experience was similar to yours, the engineers were very productive on impactful projects. I'm sure there is some dead weight in every company, but it's the exception not the norm.

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by PaulHoule »

gary_b wrote: post #241
killingtime74 wrote: post #228

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It's all true but the cafeteria is generally outsourced. Those employees are not on the books of the real enterprise and the software shared between all of the outsourcers customers. Same goes for many non-core functions.

I can confirm for a certain very large enterprise that this is not the case. The employees ARE on the books of the company and considered full time employees with full benefits, and the software is custom built for this enterprise, by this enterprise, and not shared with any other enterprises

Yeah, like I don't think ARA could build a mobile app for ordering at a cafeteria, period.

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by dnnddidiej »

jeffbee wrote: post #235
hintymad wrote: post #205

Let's be honest, Meta over hired. Big time. If anyone ever interviewed a few Meta engineers, he would easily see that a large percentage of them had really small, and sometimes bullshit scopes. As a result, such engineers couldn't articulate what they do in Meta, couldn't deep dive into their own tech stacks, nor could solve common-sense design questions when they just deviated a bit from those popular interview ques…

Strongly held but apparently not popular opinion: candidates should not be expected, and should refuse, to discuss confidential internals of their former employers.

Agreed, but what has it got to do with what you replied to?

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by jeffbee »

dnnddidiej wrote: post #253
jeffbee wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strongly held but apparently not popular opinion: candidates should not be expected, and should refuse, to discuss confidential internals of their former employers.

Agreed, but what has it got to do with what you replied to?

"couldn't deep dive into their own tech stacks"

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by rsanek »

hintymad wrote: post #205

Let's be honest, Meta over hired. Big time. If anyone ever interviewed a few Meta engineers, he would easily see that a large percentage of them had really small, and sometimes bullshit scopes. As a result, such engineers couldn't articulate what they do in Meta, couldn't deep dive into their own tech stacks, nor could solve common-sense design questions when they just deviated a bit from those popular interview ques…

Meta has about 10% more employees now than they did at the end of 2021. They currently have less than half the employees of Google or Apple; only a third of Microsoft. If you're right, the rest of big tech is in a much worse position.

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Post by dnnddidiej »

-warren wrote: post #110
shmatt wrote: post #11

if you've ever been through a Meta loop (and their method is to cast an extremely wide net, so chances are you have), you've seen how inefficient their loop can be for long term success 6-7 38* minute interviews, while the interviewee is trying to squeeze in showcasing their skills and experience, the interviewer is obsessed with figuring out a rigid set of pre-determined "signals" Once these candidates actually star…

So let me ask this. What is the perfect mix of inerviews and durations? If you ask my blue collar friends, the answer is one and however long it takes to drink three beers. If you ask any married person, the onboarding process (courtship) may last YEARS and consist of many interviews (dates). As an EM, ive always struggled with this one. Im about to invest some serious coin and brainspace for you, so I tended towards…

What does a pilot or doctor or cop do in terms of interviews, take homes etc.?

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by singpolyma3 »

pembrook wrote: post #243
pipes wrote: post #230

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Are you saying you interviewed meta engineers and found this? Or is this speculation?

As someone who has worked at big tech (and interviewed fellow big tech workers), I can confirm this is pretty typical. People from Google, Meta, Microsoft, Apple, etc...it's all the same. Given the size of these organizations (anywhere from 100K-300K employees if you include contractors), there's a vanishingly small chance the individual you're interviewing had influence or responsibility over any important thing spe…

Yeah. This is part of why I wasn't excited to work at G after my first time there. It was very boring

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by rbanffy »

marcosdumay wrote: post #179
rbanffy wrote: post #137

Every time something like this happens I think that at least one person made a very bad cash flow decision and now needs to cover a hole they dug out themselves. Sadly, they are never the ones to be sacked.

They are probably reacting to the general economy.

The scariest thing is that people with this amount of responsibility was caught by surprise.

Re: Meta tells staff it will cut 10% of jobs

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Post by metadat »

pinkmuffinere wrote: post #250
stuxnet79 wrote: post #64

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2020/2021 might as well be ancient history in tech terms. Your experience does not reflect the current status quo at all.

This seems a bit ridiculous, that’s only 5-6 years ago. Things change, but the mechanisms and culture isn’t entirely different.

Back in 2020, $META was desperate to hire. Nowadays the tide has turned and interview process shifted accordingly. They are super picky now, even for those who nail every stage of the interview, folks are still routinely passed over.
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