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Re: I am building a cloud

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Post by Aeolun »

drcongo wrote: post #221
ratg13 wrote: post #213

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As long as you never have to interact with them. If you run into issues they have caused themselves, you'll find yourself dealing with a unique mix of arrogance and incompetence.

I've been using Hetzner for ~20 years and every single support interaction I've ever had with them has been top tier. Never AI bots, always humans who are helpful, courteous and prompt. I can't think of a single company, let alone hosting company, whose customer service has been so consistently good.

It certainly helps the service never does anything wonky that requires a support interaction in the first place.

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Post by amelius »

clktmr wrote: post #49

> Agents, by making it easiest to write code, means there will be a lot more software. Economists would call this an instance of Jevons paradox. Each of us will write more programs, for fun and for work. There is already so much software out there, which isn't used by anyone. Just take a look at any appstore. I don't understand why we are so obsessed with cranking out even more, whereas the obvious usecase for LLMs s…

Yes, and most applications still have GUIs, where we could be just talking to an LLM instead.

Re: I am building a cloud

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Post by crawshaw »

47872324 wrote: post #21

exe.dev. 111 IN A 52.35.87.134 52.35.87.134 <- Amazon Technologies Inc. (AT-88-Z)

Hello, author here.

Our exe.dev web UI still runs on AWS. We also have a few users left on our VM hosts there, as when we launched in December we were considering building on AWS. Now almost all customer VMs are on other bare metal providers or machines we are racking ourselves. We built our own GLB with the help of another vendor's anycast network. You can see that if you try any of the exe.xyz names generated for user VMs.

We would move exe.dev too, but we have a few customers who are compliance sensitive going through it, so we need to get the compliance story right with our own hardware before we can. It is a little annoying being tied to AWS just for that, but very little of our traffic goes through them, so in practice it works.

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Post by oblio »

rantanplan wrote: post #201
littlestymaar wrote: post #180

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I have nom doubt that there are legit use cases for something like k8s at Google or other multi-billion companies. But if its use was confined to this use case, pretty much nobody would be using it (unless as a customer of the organization's infra) and barely would be talking about it (like how there isn't too much talk about Borg). The reason k8s is a thing in the first place is because it's being used by way too ma…

The legit use case for companies like Google/Amazon etc is only to sell it to customers. None of these companies use K8s internally for real critical workloads.

Google uses Kubernetes' grandpa, called Borg, for everything.

But to quote someone: "you are not Google".

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Post by akdev1l »

BirAdam wrote: post #247
mkj wrote: post #239

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How is docker a context switch overhead? It's the same processes running on the same kernel.

You're adding all of the other supporting processes within the container that needn't be replicated.

It depends, you could have an application with something like

FROM scratch

COPY my-static-binary /my-static-binary

ENTRYPOINT “/my-static-binary”

Having multiple processes inside one container is a bit of an anti-pattern imo

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Post by oblio »

zaphar wrote: post #253
bitexploder wrote: post #240

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Ehm, that is simply not true. Google built it for themselves first. It is essentially the open source version of the internal architecture. It gets used.

I worked at google. k8s does not really look at all like what they used internally when I was there, aside from sharing some similar looking building blocks.

Yeah, but is the internal tool simpler? I'd be surprised.

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Post by Gareth321 »

clktmr wrote: post #49

> Agents, by making it easiest to write code, means there will be a lot more software. Economists would call this an instance of Jevons paradox. Each of us will write more programs, for fun and for work. There is already so much software out there, which isn't used by anyone. Just take a look at any appstore. I don't understand why we are so obsessed with cranking out even more, whereas the obvious usecase for LLMs s…

The most recent software paradigm has been SaaS - software as a service. Capex is distributed among all customers and opex is paid for through the subscription. This avoids the large upfront capex and provides easy cost and revenue projections for both sides of the transaction. The key to SaaS is that the software is maximally generic. Meaning is works well for the largest number of people. This necessitates making tough cuts on UX and functionality when they only benefit small parts of the userbase.

Vibe coding or LLM accelerated development is going to turn this on its head. Everyone will be able to afford custom software to fit their specific needs and preferences. Where Salesforce currently has 150,000 customers, imagine 150,000 customers all using their own customised CRM. The scope for software expansion is unbelievably large right now.

Re: I am building a cloud

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Post by Gareth321 »

skybrian wrote: post #56
clktmr wrote: post #49

> Agents, by making it easiest to write code, means there will be a lot more software. Economists would call this an instance of Jevons paradox. Each of us will write more programs, for fun and for work. There is already so much software out there, which isn't used by anyone. Just take a look at any appstore. I don't understand why we are so obsessed with cranking out even more, whereas the obvious usecase for LLMs s…

Sometimes “better” means “customized for my specific use case.” I expect that there will be a lot of custom software that never appears in any app store.

If we take it a step further, in a few years, why would anyone purchase generic software anymore? If we can perfectly customise software for our needs and preferences for almost free, why would anyone purchase generic software from an App Store? I genuinely think Apple's business model is in jeopardy.

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Post by dnnddidiej »

dajonker wrote: post #74

> Making Kubernetes good is inherently impossible, a project in putting (admittedly high quality) lipstick on a pig. So well put, my good sir, this describes exactly my feelings with k8s. It always starts off all good with just managing a couple of containers to run your web app. Then before you know it, the devops folks have decided that they need to put a gazillion other services and an entire software-defined netw…

That is good but at bigger orgs with massive workloads and the teams to build it out k8s makes sense. It is a standard and brilliant tech.
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