By microsoft's naming scheme this should be Linux Subsystem for Windows
Yeah this has never made sense...
Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
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Re: Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Developing on cygwin, however, was a right pain. If a C library you wanted to use didn't have a pre-built cygwin version (understandable!) then you end up doing 'configure, make' on everything in the dependency tree, and from memory about two thirds of the time you had to edit something because it's not quite POSIX enough sometimes.
Ha ha doing Unix like it was 1989. At the time I thought configure was the greatest of human achievements since I was distributing software amongst Sun machines of varying vintage and a Pyramid. I want to say good times but I prefer now ha ha
autotools felt old even in 90's
Re: Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
#53So, is it like colinux[0], but for pre-NT windows? Neat! Back when I was still using windows (probably XP era), I used to run colinux, it was kind of amazing, setting up something like LAMP stack on the linux side was a lot easier and then using windows editors for editing made for quite nice local dev env, I think! Could even try some of the X11 servers on windows and use a linux desktop on top of windows. When I no…
Colinux was a tech feat, just not that many people noticed.
Re: Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cygwin is way older than CoLinux. CoLinux is from 2004. Cygwin was first released in 1995. The problem with Cygwin as I remember it was DLL hell. You'd have applications (such as a OpenSSH port for Windows) which would include their own cygwin1.dll and then you'd have issues with different versions of said DLL. Cygwin had less overhead which mattered in a world of limited RAM and heavy, limited swapping (x86-32, limi…
Just use ssh from Cygwin. DLL hell was rarely a problem, just always install everything via setup.exe. The single biggest problem it has is slow forking. I learned to write my scripts in pure bash as much as possible, or as a composition of streaming executables, and avoid executing an executable per line of input or similar.
Slow forking is only the second biggest problem IMO. The biggest is the lack of proper signals. There's a bunch of software out there that just isn't architected to work well without non-cooperative preemption.
Re: Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
#55By microsoft's naming scheme this should be Linux Subsystem for Windows
No? WSL is Linux on Windows — so W9xSL is Linux on Windows 9x. I think… :)
Re: Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
#56Before WSL, the best ways to run unmodified Linux binaries inside Windows were CoLinux and flinux. http://www.colinux.org/ https://github.com/wishstudio/flinux flinux essentially had the architecture of WSL1, while CoLinux was more like WSL2 with a Linux kernel side-loaded. Cygwin was technically the correct approach: native POSIX binaries on Windows rather than hacking in some foreign Linux plumbing. Since it was me…
I've been running colinux for years until early 2009 when I reinstalled my laptop with Ubuntu 8.04 and Windows XP in a VM. So much faster.
Re: Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
#57Before WSL, the best ways to run unmodified Linux binaries inside Windows were CoLinux and flinux. http://www.colinux.org/ https://github.com/wishstudio/flinux flinux essentially had the architecture of WSL1, while CoLinux was more like WSL2 with a Linux kernel side-loaded. Cygwin was technically the correct approach: native POSIX binaries on Windows rather than hacking in some foreign Linux plumbing. Since it was me…
I thought WSL2 is functionally a virtual machine with deep host integration. That’s why you need HyperV.
Sort of. Technically speaking, just enabling hyper-v turns your base windows install into a VM. Wsl2 then just runs along side
Re: Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
#58Okay what is it with WSL naming, this always confuses me. Shouldn't it be Linux subsystem for Windows?
Other people already answered but windows was just another personality on the original idea that cutler had for WNT. It just took a while for it to get implemented as a linux
The Showstoppers book by G. Pascal Zachary is an entertaining account of NT uprising.
Re: Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
#59Everytime I see something like this, I'm like, how in the hell did they learn and then figure this out? Congrats on this!!!! I will definitely have to play with this for some of that sweet nostalga.
Re: Windows 9x Subsystem for Linux
#60> Proudly written with zero AI.
Unfortunately this is ambiguous, as there's an AI product called Zero AI.