The amount of crap Windows users have to put up with is incredible

Post by sbuk » Tue, Nov 13, 2012, 3:38 PM UTC

mistercow wrote: post #320

comex wrote: post #319

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Fair enough. I agree the fee can be steep to some. As a user, a counterpoint: I hate going to random websites and giving them my credit card and dealing with whatever license key they give me. I hate trials. Cheaper apps I can buy more liberally are nicer. I hate crappy software that spews stuff around my system. Even though some apps can never be subject to sandboxing, I think forcing the rest to clean up their inte…

>I think the Store is only the death of an ecosystem insofar as it replaces it with a slightly different, but mostly just improved ecosystem. But it's not an ecosystem now. It's a garden. And maybe it seems improved from a user's perspective, but it is completely fucked from a developer's perspective. If we can agree that Apple has made selling outside the App Store nonviable, and that dealing with the App Store is c…

Post by shurane » Wed, Nov 14, 2012, 3:17 AM UTC

cubicle67 wrote: post #156

kstenerud wrote: post #124

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Definitely NOT Apple. Despite their open source site, the most important bits of the OS are closed, and so developers can't dig into the OS to figure out if the bizarre behavior they're seeing is a bug in the OS or not. Worse, they can't submit patches for things they do find. Instead, they have to go submit a radar report, which can't be seen by anyone but themselves. It's so bad that it has become common behavior t…

all this is true if we add "for XCode based development" as a qualifier to "Definitely NOT Apple" I use an ageing (4yo) 13" macbook as my primary development machine and it works fine. I'm no where near geeky (or whatever term you use) to be even thinking about fiddling with OS internals and I've never hit an OSX bug that bothered me much

Post by qu4z-2 » Wed, Nov 14, 2012, 10:41 PM UTC

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #264

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #223

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Go read the article again. Now consider how inane what you just said is? The whole point of the article is that these issues can be solved but that the combination of all of them eventually make the platform bad. Your "just turn it off" statement couldn't be more off-base for this discussion if you tried.

Give me a break. `sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping` or as the other replier comments, a single check-switch will disable this. It clearly is NOTHING compared to the daily bullshit in Windows. What a self righteous jerk. The article is about the regular bullshit that Windows users go through. A single choice made to bolster revenue of an open source project is vastly different than a system that simply hasn't b…

Post by qu4z-2 » Wed, Nov 14, 2012, 11:04 PM UTC

jodrellblank wrote: post #68

And the first reply is "use linux". To a post about "usability problems people have to put up with because authors care more for their ideas than user experience". Linux. Famed for choosing choice over usability and ideology over usability almost to the point of absurdity.

Post by qu4z-2 » Wed, Nov 14, 2012, 11:10 PM UTC

funkwyrm wrote: post #47

I know it is the deep dark valley of obvious, but this is why we use macs.