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Acetaminophen vs. ibuprofen

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Re: Acetaminophen vs. ibuprofen

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That's ibuprofen. Which can be partially mitigated by famotidine. IBU: -stomach -kidneys -bp+ -clotting --NERD --NECD --NEUD --SNIUAA --SNIDR --DRESS APAP: -liver --DRESS -- extreme, rare side-effects

You expect us to know those acronyms?

I thought they were cheat codes.

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post #89

The right tool for the right job. When it comes to medication, in the right dosage. I'm aware of acetaminophen's down sides, and yet recently I was taking it combined with 2 other medications at the time. Why? Because all three medications are recommended for dealing with the issue I had. (Alone and in combination) The moment it wasn't helping further? Done. There is this broken idea, particularly apparent in North A…

Try dealing with a herniated disc, more ibu is definitely better. Too little wont do anything, proper dose and you feel healed

Spine issues are the single thing that pish me to ibuprofen or naproxen over acetaminophen. The latter does nothing for my issues.

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I lived with an ICU nurse for years and one of the things he emphasized was the risk of acetaminophen overdose. He's more than once treated the liver failure (and death) from it and by his words, it's one of the worse ways to go. The positive of it is it got me in the habit of logging whenever I take it, either in a note on my phone or just a sheet of paper I place on my dresser under the bottle. This helps make sure…

Agreed!! Here’s my trick: take 1g and set an alarm for +6 hours. If I don’t need it, fine. If I do, repeat.

Re: Acetaminophen vs. ibuprofen

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I grew up with the understanding that acetaminophen was the safe choice for fever or aches, and ibuprofen what the more potent compound for inflammation and severe pain. I recall casual anecdotes that "my doctor said 1.5x or 2x ibuprofen dose is ok when warranted" to address major incursions. I've never once thought about taking more than the recommended dosage of acetaminophen, largely because I had no expectation t…

> largely because I had no expectation that it would provide additional benefit.. An interesting thing with ibuprofen is that at the regular dose of 400mg it inhibits pain but if you take 1600mg it doesn't inhibit much more pain than the 400mg dose, but the inflammatory effect does increase significantly. A lot of people don't know that and take too much thinking it scales linearly.

Some know that you can combine ibuprofen with paracetamol to get extra pain suppression.

And when you want to be gentle, you alternate between them.

Re: Acetaminophen vs. ibuprofen

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post #104
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I grew up with the understanding that acetaminophen was the safe choice for fever or aches, and ibuprofen what the more potent compound for inflammation and severe pain. I recall casual anecdotes that "my doctor said 1.5x or 2x ibuprofen dose is ok when warranted" to address major incursions. I've never once thought about taking more than the recommended dosage of acetaminophen, largely because I had no expectation t…

If your doctor recommends to take a specific dose, take the specific dose. Don't half it. Taking half of stuff can also cause further damage. Like with antibiotics, where it can lead to bacteria becoming resistant. So don't be the "smarter" person. Do as your doctor says and if you have doubts, consult another doctor before just doing what you think is safe, but actually isn't.

This. But also don't trust doctors and always remember Richard Feynman's Wife. Science is hard.

Re: Acetaminophen vs. ibuprofen

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> But if acetaminophen is safer, then why don’t official sources tell you that? Guess it depends on country. Here in Norway official sources[1][2] do say acetaminophen (paracetamol here) should be the default for treating fever and pain in kids, adults, pregnant women and elderly, and have for some time. Ibuprofen they say should be used with caution. [1]: https://www.dmp.no/nyheter/behov-for-smertestillende-slik-ve.…

In Western Europe too. > but it does absolutely nothing with actual pain. It is placebo at best. This is simply false.

It is not false. It does nothing. Head hurts, you take paracetamol ... head still hurts. The belly hurts, you take paracetamol ... nothing change.

When I took ibuprofen it did actually made an actual real change.

Re: Acetaminophen vs. ibuprofen

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post #89

The right tool for the right job. When it comes to medication, in the right dosage. I'm aware of acetaminophen's down sides, and yet recently I was taking it combined with 2 other medications at the time. Why? Because all three medications are recommended for dealing with the issue I had. (Alone and in combination) The moment it wasn't helping further? Done. There is this broken idea, particularly apparent in North A…

Try dealing with a herniated disc, more ibu is definitely better. Too little wont do anything, proper dose and you feel healed

Yeah can confirm. I try to keep it low but then pain lingers for days and cumulatively over the days most probably I took as much as I should have taken in stating few days already.

Re: Acetaminophen vs. ibuprofen

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I took 2 full packs in a day once while trying to recover from severe pain. Didnt find out until later that it was supposedly a fatal dose.

Mm. Apparently i don't understand pain and the medication it drives people towards.

> Apparently i don't understand pain

I didn't until I had a bulging lower back disc pressing on my sciatic nerve. My leg felt like it was constantly on fire no matter what position I put myself in. In the past I've torn my ACL and had surgery to reconstruct and that pain was like stubbing my toe compared to the back pain. I understood how people become addicted to pain meds after my back situation.

Re: Acetaminophen vs. ibuprofen

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post #126

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The only issue with treating pain with paracetamol is that it does not work at all against the pain. It works against fewer or maybe mild inflammation and what not ... but it does absolutely nothing with actual pain. It is placebo at best.

What is actual pain?

When it hurts. Like, when your head hurts for example.
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