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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by HWR_14 »

Yizahi wrote: post #147
robertkarl wrote: post #44

I don't think I've ever been on such a rollercoaster with a company's reputation in the developer space. I started in January on the $20 plan, essentially my first agentic AI programming. I quickly started hitting limits developing several apps at the same time. I went up to the $200 plan after seeing the value. After seeing my own issues with 4.6 and the mega-post on Github about declining metrics in a decent datase…

LLM monsters are deeply unprofitable, going by the industry hearsay (which is the only thing we have, given ultra secrecy of the LLM corporations). The only two LLM companies which disclosed their finances without lies, were two Chinese corporations and they, unsurprisingly, were deeply in red. Remember the old saying about boiling a frog? LLM corporations need to make most of their users pay hundreds per month, asap…

I assume the Chinese corporations can operate in the red forever and be subsidized by the Chinese government.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by Foobar8568 »

operatingthetan wrote: post #62
elschneider wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a similar ride, but disagree with your conclusion. Opus 4.7 is so incredibly powerful from my experience, that nothing else really matters and I think at Anthropic they know it. People will pay a lot for access to this model.

>Opus 4.7 is so incredibly powerful from my experience, I'm not challenging your opinion, but this is an outlier in the general current public opinion about it.

I personally prefer 4.7 to 4.6 or previous model.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by port11 »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #438
trueno wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

pretty much none of these big providers are offering the guarantees needed to be taken seriously in workplaces right now. the technology itself isn't offering the deterministic guarantees that should warrant it in the workplace right now. problem is everyone's foot is just on the gas. even if your workplace isnt paying for it, people are just straight up rolling their own personal claude accounts to do work at orgs.…

Anthropic is absolutely taken seriously in workplaces, what are you even talking about? No serious business uses Pro or Max, they are all on Anthropic API billing. In fact with this move it is plainly obvious that Anthropic is moving compute from prosumers towards enterprise.

I know of a very serious business that deployed Max to all of their developers. API pricing, from what I see, can become more expensive than just hiring another dev.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by estomagordo »

inetknght wrote: post #432
pitched wrote: post #395

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What do you think about slow rollouts for new features? Like, we think this new push notification system will be loved but let’s ship to only 1% of users in case there’s a horrible unforeseen consequence like occasional 10min delays? Dashboard goes upside down -> revert then work through logs to figure out what the hell went wrong.

What do you think of things you purchased changing over time into something you didn't purchase?

That's literally any software subscription ever.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by Bombthecat »

stellalo wrote: post #421
IgorPartola wrote: post #332

What a way to ruin goodwill with the very community they are trying to court. I am on a Pro subscription to use with Claude Code, but it sounds like the days of using it are numbered. I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. Moreover, I have been recommending Anthropic's API solutions up to now to friends and clients. Based on this…

> I guess I will be trying the latest offering from OpenAI and Google tomorrow and if they are satisfactory I might just switch. If Anthropic’s move is confirmed, my guess is other coding agents providers might end up making similar moves

Gpt xhigh isn't that bad..

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by vasachi »

esafak wrote: post #426
kobalsky wrote: post #350

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> the very community they are trying to court After all, we may be a just a data source and not their intended demographic all along.

The valuation is obviously based on the premise of their capturing the white collar economy. OpenAI's charter says so openly. And Chinese robots will come for blue workers next.

The economy, not the workers :) It feels like pretty soon white collar workers will be in a “You have nothing to lose but your chains” situation. Except we are not as fit as the proletariat of the past.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by isodev »

m3kw9 wrote: post #458
isodev wrote: post #449

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I don’t get the surprise or discontent. People hooking themselves up to a paid SaaS that only two vendors can offer (Anthropic and OpenAI), no competition or regulation to speak of… of course they’ll do whatever they want with their plans. Hope you can still resume working on your projects without AI.

Losing trust on them not rug pulling users

If one doesn't want rug-pulls, one signals their policy makers to create regulation to prevent it. Otherwise it's just... uncapped capitalism or what's the name

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by jwilliams »

ogou wrote: post #459

Most commercial websites, especially tech, run multiple A/B experiments in parallel to optimize signup funnels and tier conversions. Even so, there should always be a source of truth for people. We should have some way of verifying what we get for what we pay. There are laws about this as well. This guy's casual and crass response is a sign of disrespect for customers. Unfortunately, that is pervasive in the industry…

I think there is more here: Anthropic's whole market positioning is based on trust. It's literally their reason for being.

The Claude constitution has a major section about not being deceptive. Now this is GTM, not the model, but there is clearly a coherence problem here... and if anyone should realize the important of their market positioning it's GTM.

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