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Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Reading the comments here drives home an industry wide problem with these tools: people are just using the latest and most expensive models because they can , and because they’re cargo-culting. This is perhaps the first time that software has had this kind of problem, and coders are not exactly demonstrating great discretionary decision making. I’ve been using Anthropic models exclusively for the last month on a larg…

Model selection for day to day tasks based on vibes is not very scientific. Micromanaging the model doesn't seem like a great idea when doing real professional work with professional goals/deadlines/pressures.

> Micromanaging the model doesn't seem like a great idea when doing real professional work with professional goals/deadlines/pressures.

Remember that it's not only the cost per token, but also speed. Some tasks are done faster with simpler/less-thinking models, so it might actually make sense to micromanage the model when you have deadlines.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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>it’s now common for a handful of requests to incur costs that exceed the plan price!

I think this is really telling. The cost of AI has really been masked HUGELY to drive adoption. The true cost is likely to be unsustainable for the big complex tasks (agents running for hours+) that companies have been pushing.

I was skeptical, then quietly bullish on AI, but I'm now seeing signs the market is cracking and the availability is going to receded/costs balloon.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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I have a GitHub Pro subscription, renewed for the 2nd year, and I just found out I can no longer use Opus with it. Opus was one of the reasons I had a subscription in the first place. Opus 4.6 had a 3x multiplier in Pro. Now the new Opus 4.7 model has 7.5x in Pro+, which offers 5x more requests, but costs 4x more than Pro. So now Opus is essentially 2x the price it used to be. It’s likely that Sonnet 4.7 will be the…

> This whole thing is a massive asshole move, probably illegal in all countries with a minimum set of consumer protections

Why would it be illegal in any country? Did you pay for an year upfront? Even if so they're offering a pro-rated refund according to the linked blog post:

> If you hit unexpected limits or these changes just don’t work for you, you can cancel your Pro or Pro+ subscription and receive a refund for the time remaining on your current subscription by visiting your Billing settings before May 20

Not sure where the expectation that a business should continue serving you at a given price till the end of time no matter what came from.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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>it’s now common for a handful of requests to incur costs that exceed the plan price! I think this is really telling. The cost of AI has really been masked HUGELY to drive adoption. The true cost is likely to be unsustainable for the big complex tasks (agents running for hours+) that companies have been pushing. I was skeptical, then quietly bullish on AI, but I'm now seeing signs the market is cracking and the avail…

Copilot is pretty unique in that they were only measuring requests, and that model is just broken for agentic systems.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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post #54

I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.

I found the Copilot harness generally more buggy/disfunctional. After seeing a "long" agent response get dropped (still counts against usage of course) too many times I gave up on the product.

It doesn't matter how competent the actual model is, or how long it's able to operate independently, if the harness can't handle it and drops responses. Made me think are they even using their own harness?

At least Anthropic is obviously dogfooding on Claude Code which keeps it mostly functional.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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post #101
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading the comments here drives home an industry wide problem with these tools: people are just using the latest and most expensive models because they can , and because they’re cargo-culting. This is perhaps the first time that software has had this kind of problem, and coders are not exactly demonstrating great discretionary decision making. I’ve been using Anthropic models exclusively for the last month on a larg…

AI should decide the level of model needed, and fallback if it fails. It mostly is a UX problem. Why do I need to specify the level of model beforehand? Many problems don't allow decision pre-implementation.

This is the approach of Auto in Cursor and I've not been impressed with it at all. I think I'm always getting Composer and while its fast it wastes my time. GLM 5.1 in OpenCode is far better and less expensive, it can do planning and implementation both very effectively. Opus is still the best but GPT 5.4 (in Codex) is good enough too, and way more affordable.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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I wouldn't mind this change that much if opus-4.7 worked properly in copilot cli. It keeps stopping mid-thought or task and forces me to waste more prompts for no observable reason. Looks like I'm ending my subscription, good (likely too good, no way my account was even remotely within profitable range) access to opus-4.6 was the only reason I used this at all.

Are you using through regular copilot (the 'local' agent type), or through the separate claude agent type (which I believe you have to activate in your repository settings on github). I had the exact same issues with the latter - randomly stops working, wipes chat history, just generally seems to be totally broken. But the former works totally fine and still lets you select sonnet/opus. My experience was before this…

Regular local agent. Seems like as soon as the context fills up (and it only has about 160k of context so that doesn't take much) it starts to fall to pieces. I even tried using opencode as a harness instead and it causes opus 4.7 to lose all memory every time I hit a compaction step.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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This is such a rug pull.

I'm a paying customer and I did not receive ANY communication about this. Was using Opus this afternoon and then it disappeared.

Microsoft really can't stop being Microsoft. I don't dispute the need to charge more for those models, but there is a basic decency to do things and as usual the Big Tech fuckery and complete lack of morals makes them do this in a way that generates total mistrust where it could be just annoyance.

I'll see how Sonnet handles the most difficult problems but I'm foresee a subscription cancelation soon.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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>it’s now common for a handful of requests to incur costs that exceed the plan price! I think this is really telling. The cost of AI has really been masked HUGELY to drive adoption. The true cost is likely to be unsustainable for the big complex tasks (agents running for hours+) that companies have been pushing. I was skeptical, then quietly bullish on AI, but I'm now seeing signs the market is cracking and the avail…

Copilot is pretty unique in that they were only measuring requests, and that model is just broken for agentic systems.

CC wasn't per-token either? Nor is Codex?

From my simple checks - and from Microsoft's own blog - per token pricing isn't going to be realistic for agentic coding either.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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post #96
post #64

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where have you read this? According to https://claude.com/pricing/pro it is included.

According to https://claude.com/pricing it no longer is. They’ve explicitly updated that page to exclude it (it was on there before)

its showing claude code as included in pro now on that page
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