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Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by rectang »

diath wrote: post #10
rectang wrote: post #9

Welp. I already added a $20 Claude Pro subscription to complement my $10 Github Copilot Pro subscription and $10 DuckDuckGo Plus. That was partly to show support for Anthropic after the OpenAI/DOD episode, but also because I've been using Opus 4.5 exclusively with Copilot and I figured I should try Claude Code eventually. Now it's going to cost me an upgrade to $39 Github Pro+ to keep using Opus, and even then it's w…

> I didn't really want to wander outside of VSCode just yet because I was happy with VSCode/Copilot/Opus-4.5 This was my first thought too but apparently you can just use Claude Code within VSC: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/vs-code

I've started messing with this and the experience seems pretty similar.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by sovietmudkipz »

I cannot describe how disappointing it is to be switching to this insane time limit window based pricing. I absolutely abhor that I'll be subjected to 5 hour chunks of time where I'll be limited at some point in that window of time, and be told I'll have to wait. And then there is a weekly limit.

That's not how my creative energy works. I have time that I want to solve problems, and I want to solve them. I don't want a cooldown timer applied to solving a problem. Not to mention the anxiety of realizing that while I sleep I could have burned tokens in that time.

I'm incredibly disappointed when I sat down to my hobbyist programming time and realized copilot was suddenly and dramatically changed in a way that is incredibly disheartening.

Meter my token usage DON'T tell me when I can use them! ARGH.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by p1necone »

benwills wrote: post #20

Yesterday, Opus 4.6 cost three credits. You can no longer use 4.6 or 4.5. Opus 4.7 is available today for 7.5 credits per prompt. They have also suspended new signups. After testing all of the major IDEs/tools that integrate with LLMs over the last four weeks, I was happy to settle on Copilot. I, and others, seem to be a lot confident in that decision. Especially since there seems to be no refund path for people who…

> In my 30+ years online, I've never seen an industry change so much in terms of pricing, service levels, etc, as I have the last two months.

Warning: baseless speculation/theorizing ahead.

This is the consequence of LLM inference being really expensive to run, and LLM inference companies being really attractive to VCs. The VC silly money means their costs are totally decoupled from revenue for a while, but I guess eventually people look at incomings vs outgoings and start asking questions.

Previous big trends like SaaS apps, NFTs, blockchain etc were similarly attractive to VCs (for a period of time at least for the last two, the first one is still pretty attractive to VCs), but nowhere near as expensive to run so the behaviour of the companies running them wasn't quite the same.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by p1necone »

WhiteDawn wrote: post #5

I wouldn't mind this change that much if opus-4.7 worked properly in copilot cli. It keeps stopping mid-thought or task and forces me to waste more prompts for no observable reason. Looks like I'm ending my subscription, good (likely too good, no way my account was even remotely within profitable range) access to opus-4.6 was the only reason I used this at all.

Are you using through regular copilot (the 'local' agent type), or through the separate claude agent type (which I believe you have to activate in your repository settings on github).

I had the exact same issues with the latter - randomly stops working, wipes chat history, just generally seems to be totally broken. But the former works totally fine and still lets you select sonnet/opus. My experience was before this recent 4.6 -> 4.7 change though.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by [deleted] »

aleksiy123 wrote: post #7

I saw some Reddit rumours going around and locked myself into the yearly Pro+ I guess overall probably was a good decision. But 7.5x as well as quota limits is pretty hard to swallow. The annoying thing about the quota limits is they make it really awkward to actually fully utilize the 1500 premium requests you are paying for. Like if you don’t plan working around the daily and weekly quotas you may not actually be a…

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Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by theshrike79 »

p1necone wrote: post #24
benwills wrote: post #20

Yesterday, Opus 4.6 cost three credits. You can no longer use 4.6 or 4.5. Opus 4.7 is available today for 7.5 credits per prompt. They have also suspended new signups. After testing all of the major IDEs/tools that integrate with LLMs over the last four weeks, I was happy to settle on Copilot. I, and others, seem to be a lot confident in that decision. Especially since there seems to be no refund path for people who…

> In my 30+ years online, I've never seen an industry change so much in terms of pricing, service levels, etc, as I have the last two months. Warning: baseless speculation/theorizing ahead. This is the consequence of LLM inference being really expensive to run, and LLM inference companies being really attractive to VCs. The VC silly money means their costs are totally decoupled from revenue for a while, but I guess e…

AI is still in the "VCs subsidizing everything" -phase.

So:

- DO use AIs to build tools for yourself faster. If the AI goes away, the dashboard and scripts you made will still work.

- DO NOT build your business on top of 3rd party AI services with no way of swapping the backend easily. The question isn't whether there's going to be a "rug-pull", but when it happens. It might be sudden like this one or gradual where they just pump up the price like boiling a frog.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by alexaholic »

I have a GitHub Pro subscription, renewed for the 2nd year, and I just found out I can no longer use Opus with it. Opus was one of the reasons I had a subscription in the first place.

Opus 4.6 had a 3x multiplier in Pro. Now the new Opus 4.7 model has 7.5x in Pro+, which offers 5x more requests, but costs 4x more than Pro. So now Opus is essentially 2x the price it used to be.

It’s likely that Sonnet 4.7 will be the new 3x model in Pro — https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/changes-to-gi...

This whole thing is a massive asshole move, and probably illegal in all countries with a minimum set of consumer protections.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by alexaholic »

davepeck wrote: post #8

This thread is pretty quiet for what strikes me as a substantial set of changes with, presumably, more substantial changes still to come for anyone not grandfathered into a Pro plan. I get the impression that the intersection of HN posters and Copilot users is quite small in practice; that Claude Code and Codex suck up all the oxygen in this room. But it seems plausible we’ll see similar “true costs greatly exceed ou…

> more substantial changes still to come for anyone not grandfathered into a Pro plan

The change applies to existing subscriptions, some paid a year in advance.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by auguzanellato »

everfrustrated wrote: post #3

This is quite the rug pull. I've been using the Pro+ with Opus 4.6 very successfully and being charged 3x rate was mostly acceptable. But removing Opus 4.6 and replacing with Opus 4.7 with a 7x rate is just insane!

Note that the 7.5x multiplier is only for the promotional period (until end of April), then it'll get even worse. If I had to guess it'll be priced at 10x.
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