Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

bsky.app

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

381–390 of 676 posts

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#381

Post by inetknght »

vehemenz wrote: post #372
inetknght wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Solution: don't A/B test your users. A/B testing people without their informed consent is immoral, unethical, and should be illegal.

Depends entirely on the stakes and whether personal data is involved

> Depends entirely on the stakes and whether personal data is involved

Sure. Let me just A/B test whether or not you'll respond positively or negatively to having your news delivered via push notification or delayed by 10 minutes.

I'm sure you would appreciate being tested on without your consent, just so that I can make an extra quick buck at your expense. Nothing amoral or unethical about it.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#382

Post by SoMomentary »

rafael-lua wrote: post #349

I'm out of the loop. Do you guys use Claude subscriptions for Claude Code rather than just pay-as-you-go API keys? Is it cost related?

Yes, it's been a way better deal to go for a subscription than pay as you go for me in the past. I had a month where I burnt through ~3.8b tokens which was somewhere in the ballpark of $8k worth of savings.

Now though I don't dare use spend tokens for basic note taking with Sonnet because I'm hitting the limit over a couple million tokens on the 20x plan, so they've really tightened the purse strings since November.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#383

Post by rokob »

muyuu wrote: post #368
peab wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the cursor 20$ a month plan has been working great for me. You can use most models, and unlimited use of composer 2, which is surprisingly good

It's a volatile space. Cursor was just acquired by SpaceX, so let's see what happens.

Wait what

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#384

Post by p1necone »

rob wrote: post #242

https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724846604963924 (Head of Growth @AnthropicAI) > When we launched Max a year ago, it didn't include Claude Code, Cowork didn't exist, and agents that run for hours weren't a thing. Max was designed for heavy chat usage, that's it. Is there a wager that this is 100% foreshadowing Claude Code will be removed from the $100-200/month Max plans soon and go to something like API-only?…

Do they have a substantial userbase for this outside of claude code? The only two use cases for LLMs that seem to have significant traction are programming, and erotic roleplay lol. If they stop catering to devs, who is their market?

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#386

Post by Eufrat »

This just lends more fuel to AI skeptics that this entire thing is a massive, unsustainable grift. The explanation only adds confusion and implicitly means that this was not a mistake. What is someone to take away from this?

That $20/month is not profitable? That Anthropic thinks that people are willing to pay a 400% markup without batting an eye? That Anthropic is desperately trying to clean up their burn rate? Why should we trust a company that can screw up basic PR this hard?

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#389

Post by shimman »

inetknght wrote: post #347
minimaxir wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A/B tests only work if the subjects don't realize they are in a A/B test.

Solution: don't A/B test your users. A/B testing people without their informed consent is immoral, unethical, and should be illegal.

Agreed and I can't wait until they regulate this stuff out of existence. It's absolutely hostile software technique that is deeply anti-human.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

#390

Post by nvch »

I'm curious about their expectations and how they will interpret the results.

On the one hand, the people there are supposedly among the smartest on the planet. On the other hand, they consistently forget that they're dealing with LOYAL humans, and these humans prefer respectful communication beforehand instead of being messed with every other day.

My hope for reasonable behavior is to not handle it this way. Decrease limits and increase prices if you can't handle it and be _honest_ about it.

Are they just looking for a way to rationalize another hostile act? And already have expectations like:

- "minus 10% in pro signups" -> oh, let's drop those coders who won't pay anyway

- "minus X% in pro signups and plus X% in max" -> awesome, PAY UP!

Post reply on HN