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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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I don't think I've ever been on such a rollercoaster with a company's reputation in the developer space. I started in January on the $20 plan, essentially my first agentic AI programming. I quickly started hitting limits developing several apps at the same time. I went up to the $200 plan after seeing the value. After seeing my own issues with 4.6 and the mega-post on Github about declining metrics in a decent datase…

LLM monsters are deeply unprofitable, going by the industry hearsay (which is the only thing we have, given ultra secrecy of the LLM corporations). The only two LLM companies which disclosed their finances without lies, were two Chinese corporations and they, unsurprisingly, were deeply in red. Remember the old saying about boiling a frog? LLM corporations need to make most of their users pay hundreds per month, asap…

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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A/B tests only work if the subjects don't realize they are in a A/B test.

Solution: don't A/B test your users. A/B testing people without their informed consent is immoral, unethical, and should be illegal.

Depends entirely on the stakes and whether personal data is involved

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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> So we're looking at different options to keep delivering a great experience for users. his title should be changed to Head of Corporate Bullshitting

>"his title should be changed to Head of Corporate Bullshitting" They're hitting the physical limits of energy production and chip supply for inference capacity. There's literally nothing that can be done but reduce usage to spread it around for now.

there's nothing stopping them from saying that, which is my point which you missed

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Claude has become practically unusable for Pro users in the past few days. The Opus 4.7 blew through an entire 5 hour limit in one question and didn’t even finish answering it. Zero value delivered. Opus 4.6 is giving 2, maybe 3 questions before blowing through the Pro 5 hour limit as well. We are forced to use Sonnet which makes the same mistakes over and over and then to start trying with other companies. To make m…

I wouldn't be surprised if folks start complaining to California government agencies like the Department of Consumer Affairs, and they take it seriously.

There is a lot of political capital to be earned by appearing to be "tough" on AI companies.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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post #294

Claude has become practically unusable for Pro users in the past few days. The Opus 4.7 blew through an entire 5 hour limit in one question and didn’t even finish answering it. Zero value delivered. Opus 4.6 is giving 2, maybe 3 questions before blowing through the Pro 5 hour limit as well. We are forced to use Sonnet which makes the same mistakes over and over and then to start trying with other companies. To make m…

I'm starting to think I've been A/B tested, because this was my experience for almost a year with Claude ever since I tried it for coding. Meanwhile, my coworkers seemed to be able to use it for long periods of time without getting rate limited.

One interesting variable is that I'm located in Vietnam while my coworkers are located in Norway and Europe.

To work around this issue I used Claude for coding with a Copilot subscription which was much cheaper and had virtually no rate limiting.

Copilot gives you some set amount of credits each month, but you can also pay as you go if you run out of credit which is much better than the 5 hour window crap claude code would give me.

The only opus model available now on copilot for some reason is 4.7 and it costs 7.5x tokens, while everything else is 1x, 0.33x or free.

But I switched to using GPT 5.4 medium for a month or so which I find very reasonable.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A/B tests only work if the subjects don't realize they are in a A/B test.

Solution: don't A/B test your users. A/B testing people without their informed consent is immoral, unethical, and should be illegal.

To play devil's advocate, without A/B testing a lot of decisions would be made with insufficient relevant data, and lead to subpar results that affect the many negatively form the road.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Solution: don't A/B test your users. A/B testing people without their informed consent is immoral, unethical, and should be illegal.

To play devil's advocate, without A/B testing a lot of decisions would be made with insufficient relevant data, and lead to subpar results that affect the many negatively form the road.

A lot of decisions made with A/B testing are also made with insufficient relevant data, but it's less obvious since it's easy to think the A/B results cover everything.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…

A/B tests only work if the subjects don't realize they are in a A/B test.

Perhaps vibe coding the A/B testing engine isn't the best idea.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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> I can't understand removing Claude Code from $20 Not according to their webpage: "Claude Code is included in your Pro plan. Perfect for short coding sprints in small codebases with access to both Sonnet 4.6 and Opus 4.7." [1] [1]: https://claude.com/product/claude-code

There are clear contradictions across their marketing site. As others have pointed out, it's being removed from some help articles and the pricing chart now shows it revoked. Confusing signals, but they seem to be changing all pages in this direction and haven't updated that one yet. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47854478

what happened to agentic superintelligence based development?

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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I had a similar ride, but disagree with your conclusion. Opus 4.7 is so incredibly powerful from my experience, that nothing else really matters and I think at Anthropic they know it. People will pay a lot for access to this model.

Incredible, powerful, but I couldn't believe how fast I hit the limits compared to how it was with Opus 4.6. They removed Opus 4.6 completely from CC. I would prefer it with the previous limits. That's not how you keep your customers. None of these agents have a moat, I moved away from Cursor when they started doing what Anthropic is doing now, and never went back even when I was a paying customer since the start.

You can just use the model parameter to bring it back
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