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Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by versteegen »

NiloCK wrote: post #69

So this is pretty devastating to my general workflows [1] right now, and poorly timed to boot, with no wind-down at all. It was clear (see the linked post from 70 days ago) that the current offering was unsustainable, but I'm a bit taken aback at how sharp the clawback is. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46938246

Yes, Github's per-request pricing was insane; anyone suggesting using CC instead or asking if any other provider is as cheap just doesn't understand the insanity. Clearly losing a lot of money on the people making good use of it.

I was actually hoping they would change it to something that more closely tracks their actual costs so that they wouldn't have to rug-pull this badly. In particular what was really bad about it was that sending prompts to agents while they were working (to give them corrections) cost extra so I stopped doing that (after initially OpenCode didn't cause billing for that, until they became official).

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by versteegen »

rcleveng wrote: post #71
plasma_beam wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because if you’re a vscode user up until a couple days ago you could hammer Opus 4.6 all day every day and pay nowhere close to the Claude Max plan. Many people exploited this and the subsidy is closing.

Just use claude code directly with a pro plan instead of copilot for roughly the same cost. On wait, nevermind. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47855565

The Anthropic Pro plan cost double and gave you, I don't know, a tenth the usage, depending on how efficiently you used Copilot requests, and no access to a large set of models including GPT and Gemini and free ones.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by giancarlostoro »

hx8 wrote: post #54

I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.

Except Copilot doesnt bill you per token like all those companies do, they bill you per prompt, at least Copilot in Visual Studio 2026 which is insane to me, are they just hosting all those models and able to reduce costs of doing so?

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by xienze »

sovietmudkipz wrote: post #22

I cannot describe how disappointing it is to be switching to this insane time limit window based pricing. I absolutely abhor that I'll be subjected to 5 hour chunks of time where I'll be limited at some point in that window of time, and be told I'll have to wait. And then there is a weekly limit. That's not how my creative energy works. I have time that I want to solve problems, and I want to solve them. I don't want…

> I'm incredibly disappointed when I sat down to my hobbyist programming time and realized copilot was suddenly and dramatically changed in a way that is incredibly disheartening.

Guess it’s time to rediscover the lost art of programming without an LLM.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by p1necone »

timr wrote: post #70
alexaholic wrote: post #28

I have a GitHub Pro subscription, renewed for the 2nd year, and I just found out I can no longer use Opus with it. Opus was one of the reasons I had a subscription in the first place. Opus 4.6 had a 3x multiplier in Pro. Now the new Opus 4.7 model has 7.5x in Pro+, which offers 5x more requests, but costs 4x more than Pro. So now Opus is essentially 2x the price it used to be. It’s likely that Sonnet 4.7 will be the…

Reading the comments here drives home an industry wide problem with these tools: people are just using the latest and most expensive models because they can , and because they’re cargo-culting. This is perhaps the first time that software has had this kind of problem, and coders are not exactly demonstrating great discretionary decision making. I’ve been using Anthropic models exclusively for the last month on a larg…

I think it heavily depends on how you're using it. If you understand your codebase and you're using it like "build a function that does x in y file" then smaller/cheaper models are great. But if you're saying "hey build this relatively complex feature following the 30,000 foot view spec in this markdown doc" then Haiku doesn't work (unless your "complex feature" is just an api endpoint and some UI that consumes it).

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by anderber »

TheRoque wrote: post #51
sornaensis wrote: post #43

Good thing I had just finished migrating all of my workflows to OpenCode for the time being! It's a shame because the VsCode copilot experience is quite good out of the box compared to all of the other harnesses I've used. But with typical lack of transparency, and sudden, harsh changes... What are they thinking? After the restrictive rate limiting they've already instituted, I'm simply cancelling and continuing by u…

Which providers do you use ? I find copilot's prices pretty hard to beat, but if there's something better I'll cancel too.

I've been happy with GLM 5.1

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by jimberlage »

plasma_beam wrote: post #60
hx8 wrote: post #54

I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.

Because if you’re a vscode user up until a couple days ago you could hammer Opus 4.6 all day every day and pay nowhere close to the Claude Max plan. Many people exploited this and the subsidy is closing.

Yeah this was me. I just got a message that I hit my limit and now I am looking into what it takes to run Qwen on local hardware.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by ValentineC »

hx8 wrote: post #62
plasma_beam wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because if you’re a vscode user up until a couple days ago you could hammer Opus 4.6 all day every day and pay nowhere close to the Claude Max plan. Many people exploited this and the subsidy is closing.

Good, I hope Microsoft lost a lot of money in the deal.

From a friend in GitHub: they've been burning so much money because of Opus.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by hypercube33 »

girvo wrote: post #52
davepeck wrote: post #8

This thread is pretty quiet for what strikes me as a substantial set of changes with, presumably, more substantial changes still to come for anyone not grandfathered into a Pro plan. I get the impression that the intersection of HN posters and Copilot users is quite small in practice; that Claude Code and Codex suck up all the oxygen in this room. But it seems plausible we’ll see similar “true costs greatly exceed ou…

Anthropic literally just removed Claude Code from their Pro plan today, so you're even more right than you know.

Do you have a citation on this? I have a Claude Pro subscription and looked at the comparison page and it says this under Pro: Everything in Free and: Claude Code directly in your codebase Power through tasks with Cowork Higher usage limits Deep research and analysis Memory that carries across conversations

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by drewda »

hx8 wrote: post #61
Marsymars wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. It can bill to our Azure sub and I don't have to go through the internal bureaucracy of purchasing a new product/service from a new vendor.

Bingo. Github Copilot is mostly for organizations that have an existing Azure bill and would rather see that go up then get a new vendor bill. Professional middlemen.

This is pretty straightforward compared to the giant universe of companies that resell Microsoft services.

The number of intermediaries that some customers, especially governmental agencies, go through to get just an Azure bill can be wild...

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