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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by sidrag22 »

dzink wrote: post #294

Claude has become practically unusable for Pro users in the past few days. The Opus 4.7 blew through an entire 5 hour limit in one question and didn’t even finish answering it. Zero value delivered. Opus 4.6 is giving 2, maybe 3 questions before blowing through the Pro 5 hour limit as well. We are forced to use Sonnet which makes the same mistakes over and over and then to start trying with other companies. To make m…

Im locked in for a year of claude pro, I encountered the same issues as you a couple weeks ago, Id get like one solid plan done and really really hope it was a 1 shot because that was legit all i was gonna get out of it for those 5 hours, and it would be ~10% of weekly usage to really make me feel scared to hit send.

I got the 20$ gpt tier, and now i just use claude to craft MD plan docs instead, and then i hand them off to gpt 5.4 and it has been working great. can do about 4x as much work or so based on my feelings(not accurate). if i have just small simple stuff to do i might still fire those off with sonnet and that seems plenty viable, but as soon as its an opus tier task i swap to this workflow.

Little annoying as now im kinda trying to manage a .claude/ and an .opencode/ folder but i kinda just have the .opencode/ stuff reference the .claude/ stuff so its a little less bleh.

I've been keeping within my usage because ive been in a funk a bit, but when i was slightly more worried id sorta just juggle whether claude or gpt would handle writing some initial tests as it did seem to kinda be imbalanced otherwise. seems like gpt just spam resets weekly usage throughout the week anyway so its prolly nbd.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by evmaki »

I would love someone to play devil's advocate against this perspective:

While these tools stand to enable the democratization of productive capability in software engineering and other tasks (creating a renaissance for solopreneurs, let's say), what seems more likely to actually happen is that entrenched capital will become the only player with real access to this "knowledge as a utility" (was it Altman who called it that?).

We already see this playing out in two fronts: 1) the gradual reduction of services and 2) the DRAM market, where local-first tools (i.e., potential disruptors of the emerging "knowledge monopoly" created by the big AI firms) are being stifled by supply shortages. How many promising small-to-medium-sized competitors are being snuffed out of existence (or never starting) due to the insanity of the DRAM/storage/CPU (soon) markets?

The currently-subsidized access that we have to the big Opus-like models will, in parallel, be gradually be taken away until only the big players can afford it. And in the end what we will have is hyper-productive skeleton crews at a few consolidated firms performing (or selling expensive access to) basically all of the knowledge labor for society, with very little potential for disruption due to the hardware and "knowledge" scarcity engineered (in part, maybe) by this monopoly.

Not necessarily a closely held belief – just a hunch – which is why I want to see what parts of the picture I might be missing.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by kelsey98765431 »

abtinf wrote: post #304
simonw wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…

That tweet only makes things worse. On top of all their other nonsense recently, it actually convinced me to cancel my subscription. I can't trust Anthropic to manage their products in a way that supports my workflow.

I just cancelled before seeing this news. i was already pissed about constantly hitting limits on the 20 a month plan and looking for alternatives and this seals the deal. Bye bye!

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by maxnevermind »

operatingthetan wrote: post #90
jmcodes wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same loved them, told my team about them, got them to switch off of cursor, now I'm telling them to swap to Codex. Anthropic really pissed me off with their harness crap. They're well within their rights but their communication over it was enough to get me to swap. I don't need extra hurdles when there's a perfectly valid alternative right there. They don't have the advantage they think they do.

I think we are inevitably heading to using the cheap Chinese models like Kimi, GLM, and Minimax for the bulk of engineering tasks. Within 3-6 months they will be at Opus 4.6 level.

Anthropic will kick and scream as those are often distilled from their latest models and is cutting into their margin. Though it is not like their hands are clean neither, it is just a different type of stealing, an approved one :-)

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by makingstuffs »

It’s seems like there are a lot fishy smells coming from the timing of the mythos announcement and the reports of issues with casual users. Combine that with the mass rejection of 4.7 it kinda seems like they are burning their ‘non research’ users in order to keep the Mythos users warm.

I could be connecting unrelated dots here, but it sure as hell seems quite coincidental to me.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by ramesh31 »

thousand_nights wrote: post #273
rideontime wrote: post #209

Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.

> So we're looking at different options to keep delivering a great experience for users. his title should be changed to Head of Corporate Bullshitting

>"his title should be changed to Head of Corporate Bullshitting"

They're hitting the physical limits of energy production and chip supply for inference capacity. There's literally nothing that can be done but reduce usage to spread it around for now.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by operatingthetan »

kzisme wrote: post #207
operatingthetan wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we are inevitably heading to using the cheap Chinese models like Kimi, GLM, and Minimax for the bulk of engineering tasks. Within 3-6 months they will be at Opus 4.6 level.

How challenging are these to setup locally and have them running?

Getting them running is easy (check out LMstudio or ask one for some recommendations). The real question is whether you have the hardware to make them run fast enough to be useful.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by eaf7e281 »

Note that some companies, like Amazon, purchased and ran the Claude on their own hardware. They didn't change the model parameters during the Claude Opus 4.6 karma.

If Anthropic continues to getting worse, try Amazon Kiro and other companies that run Claude on their own hardware.

It might be expensive and have a worse experience compared to Claude's code, but at least the model itself is the "original flavor."

These days, it's hard to ask for much.

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