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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by pcurve »

rustyhancock wrote: post #96
chewz wrote: post #11

Makes sense. It is over for the little guy - home enthusiasts and vibe coders. Too many of them saturating resources for Max users. IF you cannot afford few hundred dollars subscription go out and breathe fresh air. But if you can, watch where the ball is rolling - few thousand dollars subscriptions and even less programmers.

Hear HN tell of it, Claude pays for itself 3× over. Something tells me congitively it's making us misjudge how productive it's making us. It's clearly massively increasing output, but did the market already soak up all that productivity and now it's not compensated? If your salary is 50k. And Claude makes you 2x as productive, why aren't you earning 100k? Why is it anyone can't afford $200/mo if it's truely increasin…

yeah the more people who use it means less competitive edge you have. Benefits get devalued. And you're back to square one.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by colechristensen »

redrix wrote: post #184

Next they’ll slowly reduce how much CC usage you can get out of the $100 Max plan, then introduce a new $300 “Max Plus” plan with “40x” usage. “You asked, and we listened: Introducing Max Plus, our biggest plan yet, designed for those…” blah blah

Yup, and Uber rides that used to be $5 are now $12. Because they stopped burning investor money and taking losses on each ride.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by evil-olive »

if this is accurate, and not some "oops we made a vibe-coding mistake updating our website" I am going to hit the "cancel subscription" button so hard that my desk will break in half.

I have an unlimited-usage API billing plan through my dayjob, but for obvious reasons they don't allow piggybacking personal usage onto that. so I paid for the $20/mo personal plan as an easy and relatively cheap method of professional development / keeping my skills current. I don't particularly mind paying $20/mo, but I'm absolutely not paying $100/mo.

also, part of the reason I didn't mind paying for the personal subscription is that I liked having consistency between the tools I use for my dayjob and the ones I use for side projects. if that goes away, then I might as well switch away from Claude usage at work as well. I very much doubt Anthropic's revenue predictions for this change are taking things like that into account.

making a change like this without an announcement, just sneaky updates to product pages, is also an absolutely unforgivable thing to do, in terms of me trusting them as a company.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by ai_slop_hater »

SwellJoe wrote: post #192

Why would you even want a Claude subscription if not for Claude Code? Anthropic is obviously the best for programming, but probably nowhere else. Seems like a good way to onboard people to the Claude Code experience...everyone who's working seriously with it needs Opus, anyway. But, maybe that's the rub, if the Pro plan includes no Opus usage (which I think has always been the case), you might have a worse impression…

I have been using https://claude.ai and, initially, it was good, but, unfortunately, it keeps getting worse. I had it search for contact information for a certain public entity, and in Claude's response, all emails were being replaced with [email protected] or something like that. They also added an absolutely horrendous automatic markdown in the text input, so now you can't even properly enter your prompt. It actively gets in my way and prevents me from typing what I want. Fuck you Anthropic.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by 2001zhaozhao »

Apparently it's just an A/B test. Legit LMAO moment, speedrunning reputation destruction to your entire userbase just to test a question whose answer you can probably already guess.

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> For clarity, we're running a small test on ~2% of new prosumer signups. Existing Pro and Max subscribers aren't affected.

> When we launched Max a year ago, it didn't include Claude Code, Cowork didn't exist, and agents that run for hours weren't a thing. Max was designed for heavy chat usage, that's it.

> Since then, we bundled Claude Code into Max and it took off after Opus 4. Cowork landed. Long-running async agents are now everyday workflows. The way people actually use a Claude subscription has changed fundamentally.

> Engagement per subscriber is way up. We've made small adjustments along the way (weekly caps, tighter limits at peak), but usage has changed a lot and our current plans weren't built for this.

> So we're looking at different options to keep delivering a great experience for users. We don't know exactly what those look like yet - that's what we're testing and getting feedback on right now.

> When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit.

https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830

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Personally I love how they have increased everyone's quotas to counteract the Opus 4.7 tokenizer change a few days ago, but are immediately regretting it and trying to cut off subscription users.

If the subscriptions are unprofitable, then just communicate honestly, raise the price or lower limits for new subscribers transparently, and grandfather in existing users. That's what GLM coding plan is doing and it works fine for them. Don't ruin your reputation with opaque messaging and hidden changes. Lol

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by kzisme »

operatingthetan wrote: post #90
jmcodes wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same loved them, told my team about them, got them to switch off of cursor, now I'm telling them to swap to Codex. Anthropic really pissed me off with their harness crap. They're well within their rights but their communication over it was enough to get me to swap. I don't need extra hurdles when there's a perfectly valid alternative right there. They don't have the advantage they think they do.

I think we are inevitably heading to using the cheap Chinese models like Kimi, GLM, and Minimax for the bulk of engineering tasks. Within 3-6 months they will be at Opus 4.6 level.

How challenging are these to setup locally and have them running?
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