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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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All four ports support Thunderbolt 4 - if you scroll down to "Interfaces" on the product specs page there's a graphic showing everything that's supported.

nice! Thanks! I had no idea USB4 and Thunderbolt were equivalent.

They aren't equivalent. The "shape" of the port is the same, it's (USB) Type-C. Though as far as I know most of the time you can use USB4 peripherals with TB4 ports.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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It's so cool that every individual upgrade they did here can be hot-swapped back to the older designs. That's a huge extra lift that they didn't have to do. To be specific: There's a new lower chassis, and a new chassis top with haptic touchpad. On my older framework I could buy just the chassis top to get the new touchpad. Crazy that they could make that work. I also just really admire the CEO for doing these semi-s…

> I also just really admire the CEO for doing these semi-scripted public presentations

+1. The less-scripted plus the lack of the pretending-reality-distortion personality is such a breeze.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Don't forget literally all the battery values are specified as Windows 11.

Not literally all; they say > 7 days > Standby without charging > Wi-Fi connected on Ubuntu (I'm unimpressed with listing all the "active" battery life listings with Windows, mind; I just want us to be precise in our criticisms.)

I don't want "standby", I want suspend where the only power usage is keeping the ram alive...

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #28

It's so cool that every individual upgrade they did here can be hot-swapped back to the older designs. That's a huge extra lift that they didn't have to do. To be specific: There's a new lower chassis, and a new chassis top with haptic touchpad. On my older framework I could buy just the chassis top to get the new touchpad. Crazy that they could make that work. I also just really admire the CEO for doing these semi-s…

I have a framework 13. It looks like eventually you'll be able to upgrade the chassis to the pro one, including the battery, for under 200? Am I reading this right? That's borderline unbelievable to me

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #348

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Same, though the battery upgrade alone will be around $260 because of the new bottom cover, at that might just throw in the speaker upgrade as well for $19. Not sure if I even want a haptic touchpad at all.

Haptic trackpads are the secret sauce that make MacBooks so pleasant to use. You probably want one.

Not a huge fan of the "force touch" trackpads on newer macs, the old man yells at the clouds. In all seriousness though I have used a pre force touch MacBook not too long ago and I prefer that experience a lot over the new one I have from work. Though the larger size of these trackpads is something I really like and where neither the older MacBook nor the the current non-pro Framework 13 come close.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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The new battery is physically larger, so the old bottom cannot accommodate it.

Oh right but if I want to keep everything but the chassis I can, correct ?

This page has more details, https://frame.work/laptop13pro?tab=upgrade-to-pro. You can keep everything, but they are selling some of the new parts as a kit.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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I don't know what to tell you. I'm running it on the desktop with a drawing tablet, Magic Trackpad and oodles of apps, and it's not noticeably different from the stability of iPadOS. My touchscreen laptop is closing in on being a decade old (i7 6600u) and the worst thing I can say about the experience is that it VSyncs down to 30fps during more taxing animations (just like my iPad does).

There is a whole section on touchscreen annoyances from the Linux Surface project: https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface/wiki/Installa... > Any gesture functionality is dependent on the software you are running. This includes both, the application (e.g. Firefox) and the desktop environment (e.g. GNOME). The driver can only provide a set of input coordinates to the applications. By default, the system will be…

> There is a whole section on touchscreen annoyances from the Linux Surface project

Taking a quick look, all of the things they list are basically reiterating what I've already said vis-a-vis Wayland:

  You should make sure that you are running a Wayland desktop session [...]

  It is important, that your applications run on Wayland as well.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #348

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Haptic trackpads are the secret sauce that make MacBooks so pleasant to use. You probably want one.

Not a huge fan of the "force touch" trackpads on newer macs, the old man yells at the clouds. In all seriousness though I have used a pre force touch MacBook not too long ago and I prefer that experience a lot over the new one I have from work. Though the larger size of these trackpads is something I really like and where neither the older MacBook nor the the current non-pro Framework 13 come close.

Me, neither! I just had someone suggest to me yesterday that I was "holding it wrong" for preferring a real click mechanism on my trackpads.
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