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Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by hx8 »

Marsymars wrote: post #59
hx8 wrote: post #54

I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.

> I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. It can bill to our Azure sub and I don't have to go through the internal bureaucracy of purchasing a new product/service from a new vendor.

Bingo. Github Copilot is mostly for organizations that have an existing Azure bill and would rather see that go up then get a new vendor bill. Professional middlemen.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by hx8 »

plasma_beam wrote: post #60
hx8 wrote: post #54

I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.

Because if you’re a vscode user up until a couple days ago you could hammer Opus 4.6 all day every day and pay nowhere close to the Claude Max plan. Many people exploited this and the subsidy is closing.

Good, I hope Microsoft lost a lot of money in the deal.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by almyk »

girvo wrote: post #53
diath wrote: post #6

I guess it makes more sense for me to just get Claude Pro instead. I was using my Copilot license only because of Opus 4.6 access as all other models seemed crippled in comparison in Copilot; does not even make sense to upgrade to Pro+ which goes from $10/mo to $40/mo and only gives you access to a model that has 7x the rate - 5x the limit at 7x the rate for 4x the price does not seem appealing at all.

Claude Pro no longer includes Claude Code

where have you read this? According to https://claude.com/pricing/pro it is included.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by nojito »

hx8 wrote: post #54

I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.

It makes enterprise deployments much easier because most orgs already have github enterprise.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by colechristensen »

hx8 wrote: post #54

I really dislike these AI middleman plans. The value-add that Microsoft brings to Github Copilot is near zero compared to directly buying from Anthropic or OpenAI, where 99% of the value is being delivered from. I don't understand why anyone would want to deal with Microsoft as a vendor if they don't have to. The short period of discounted usage was always the obvious rug pull.

I have thought about making a product out of something I'm building and trying to make the cost of my product a percentage on top of whatever I could resell Anthropic or OpenAI (or whatever) tokens for. I get this may be unpopular, maybe I should just stick with BYO-key.

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by NiloCK »

So this is pretty devastating to my general workflows [1] right now, and poorly timed to boot, with no wind-down at all.

It was clear (see the linked post from 70 days ago) that the current offering was unsustainable, but I'm a bit taken aback at how sharp the clawback is.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46938246

Re: Changes to GitHub Copilot individual plans

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Post by timr »

alexaholic wrote: post #28

I have a GitHub Pro subscription, renewed for the 2nd year, and I just found out I can no longer use Opus with it. Opus was one of the reasons I had a subscription in the first place. Opus 4.6 had a 3x multiplier in Pro. Now the new Opus 4.7 model has 7.5x in Pro+, which offers 5x more requests, but costs 4x more than Pro. So now Opus is essentially 2x the price it used to be. It’s likely that Sonnet 4.7 will be the…

Reading the comments here drives home an industry wide problem with these tools: people are just using the latest and most expensive models because they can, and because they’re cargo-culting. This is perhaps the first time that software has had this kind of problem, and coders are not exactly demonstrating great discretionary decision making.

I’ve been using Anthropic models exclusively for the last month on a large, realistic codebase, and I can count the number of times I needed to use Opus on one hand. Most of the time, Haiku is fine. About 10% of the time I splurge for Sonnet, and honestly, even some of those are unnecessary.

Folks are complaining because they lost unlimited access to a Ferrari, when a bicycle is fine for 95% of trips.

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