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Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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This is going to be a huge chilling factor for employees. You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.

if you use your work machine at Facebook for dissent, you don't deserve a tech-adjacent job.

In most developed countries, dissent in the workplace is protected by labor laws.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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On a work computer? No there shouldn't and isn't.

This is Stockholm syndrome. Sure, you can enforce zero privacy on work computers, it will just lead to shitty work culture and lowered productivity.

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Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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This is going to be a huge chilling factor for employees. You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.

It's absolutely wild to me that anyone has ever operated under any other assumption. If you want to complain about your boss do it at happy hour.

It's absolutely wild to me that anyone has ever operated under any other assumption.

Maybe because they're aware that complaining about the boss is protected by law (in the United States and many other countries).

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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on your phone not connected to corp wifi

That doesn't matter anymore unless they have an SSL proxy. If you have ECH/ODoH anyway.

If anyone can fingerprint your personal device while literally inside the building, it is Facebook.

You don’t even need any to do something fancy in software. Could just be correlating mobile device presence with work laptop activity. Can triangulate physical location with a handful of Bluetooth or WiFi beacons.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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On a work computer? No there shouldn't and isn't.

That sounds like a truly dystopian take to me, but suppose you're right and nobody should ever use their work computer for anything personal. Per TFA, this thing is literally taking screenshots of what is on the employee's screen. At work my screen sometimes had things such as: performance data on other employees, my own PII from HR systems, PII from customers, password managers, etc. It's also logging keystrokes. Ho…

Your screenshots go to your managers, not just anyone in the company. At Meta there are very strict safeguards for preventing employees e.g. stalking their exes, so I'd assume the same security is used for even PII filled images.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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On a work computer? No there shouldn't and isn't.

I spend the majority of my adult life working, and you're telling me I should spend it surveilled?

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Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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On a work computer? No there shouldn't and isn't.

Why not? How about a company-owned toilet? It's their property as well.

You're right, maybe they should put cameras in there too. But there's a reason we don't yet every worker still explicitly or implicitly knows not to use their work computer for personal tasks, as people can and do get fired for doing so.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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This is Stockholm syndrome. Sure, you can enforce zero privacy on work computers, it will just lead to shitty work culture and lowered productivity.

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> employee communications are already monitored everywhere

proof?

> Turns out people actually don't really care about privacy at work

lol, won't ask for proof, because it's trivially falsifiable

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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> You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. When I joined the workforce a long time ago, I went in with the mindset that: Their property, their equipment, their right to monitor (or even keylog). I was pleasantly surprised to find that not to be the case, but I've always believed in their right to do so. Why do people expect to have a right…

You would love the world of Severance! Drop your humanity and individuality at the door. Become a mindless drone

Fitting username.
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