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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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I have two Dell xps 13, two generations apart, the newer one is touchscreen the other (older) isn’t. Guess which one weighs 1.3kg and which weighs 1.1kg. I’ve literally never used the touchscreen.

> two generations apart Maybe that's the reason, not the touchscreen?

Wait, so they get _heavier_ each generation?

I don’t buy it.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Macbook Pro 14" with M5, 32GB RAM, 1TB HDD = $2,099.00 Framework Pro 13" DIY AMD Ryzen 7 350, 32GB RAM, 1TB HDD = $2,049.00 Framework Pro 13" Pre-Built AMD Ryzen 7 350, 32GB RAM, 1TB HDD = $2,059.00

Your MBP's keyboard breaks? €730[1] Your FW's Keyboard breaks? Original price you paid, bonus: you can just buy the newest model. You want to upgrade anything in your MBP? "You know, with how thin, lightweight and fast they are, it's physically impossible to make them user-serviceable" On the FW? They gave you the one tool you needed when you purchased your laptop. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47822483

CTRL+F keyboard on your link. Not found.

Why are you lying? That price is to replace the main board.

Give us the price of the Framework's mainboard if you want to compare that.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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The whole page advertises how well this runs Linux, but then… > The side-firing speakers are tuned with Dolby Atmos® to deliver clear, balanced audio on Windows

If you are an avid Linux user, you should know that this kind of Criticism is not on point. Battery life? Should they share all possible config combinations? Should they share the most power-saving setting (and then be blamed for sharing numbers that almost no one gets to reproduce?) As a Linux user on an AMD FW my battery life is good enough (7ish hours of work), and I never felt I need to tune it further from the O…

They should share the battery life numbers of default shipping configuration while running Linux with whatever settings they want. Then publish the configuration and settings. Same as every other manufacturer.

i.e. https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/#footnote-5

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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This looks suspiciously like something I could buy : a lightweight well made Linux laptop, with long battery life. I currently use a MacBook and won’t get near a windows machine. Two questions 1/ will there be a 15 inches version ? ( I’m not getting any younger I like bigger screens ) 2/ software-wise how reliable are the suspend/resume and all the laptop features ? I’ve been using Linux for about 30y and to me this…

I’m not @nrp but I think I can safely answer this one: > 1/ will there be a 15 inches version ? ( I’m not getting any younger I like bigger screens ) They make a Framework 16, so a Framework 16 Pro now suddenly seems like a possibility, but I don’t think they’re going to make a 15-inch when they have the 16.

Framework 16 is way too bulky. I would like a laptop with a similar form-factor to ThinkPad P1.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

No silver option?

There are silver pro parts on the marketplace, although I'm not sure if they're more aimed at converting a standard 13 to a pro:

https://frame.work/gb/en/products/laptop13pro-input-cover-ki...

https://frame.work/gb/en/products/laptop13pro-bottom-cover-k...

https://frame.work/gb/en/products/top-cover-cnc?v=FRANGKHA01 (not specifically a pro part but listed as compatible)

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

I just realised that the credit card I used to place my preorder will expire next month. Will there be an option to update my card details when I need to pay the full amount?

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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It's not the form factor itself that is the problem. LPDDR is more efficient for various reasons and cannot be on a DIMM. It physically will not work with a socket. That is the problem that LP-CAMM solves: LPDDR but still removable.

You did not answer the question.

Did I not? I'm trying my best here. The question is sort of off-target, though. What I am trying to say is: 1) DDR uses more power than LPDDR; 2) LPDDR cannot work on a DIMM socket, because of its lower voltage signals, and other reasons; 3) SO-DIMMs always contain the higher power DDR; QED) if you insist on SO-DIMMs, then you have to spend more energy.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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macOS seriously never nags you about services. Service nags aren't classy. You can credibly accuse Apple of plenty of things, but having a lack of class isn't one.

My screenshots directory says you are wrong: https://i.ibb.co/cKjL8qcG/Screenshot-2025-02-18-at-09-07-06.... My last (and first, and only) iPhone was even worse. At one point the Settings app had no fewer than three paid-service nags at the top that I had to scroll through to even get to the first actual setting. Storage almost full: enable iCloud Backup! Try Apple Music, first month free!! Activate your Apple News+…

Image Playground isn’t a service, it’s a free local image generation model. But I’ll grant you that the News+ thing is kind of annoying. I wouldn’t call it a nag, though - it shows in the Settings anpp after you buy a new device that includes free months, while they’re still valid, then it goes away forever.
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