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Post by cge »

overfeed wrote: post #273
cge wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's so cool that every individual upgrade they did here can be hot-swapped back to the older designs. That's a huge extra lift that they didn't have to do. Unfortunately, as is usual for them (edit: and it makes sense; I'm not blaming them), the parts and upgrade kits aren't available for ordering (edit: or pre-ordering) yet, and likely won't be for some time, until the actual laptops are shipping. But yes, this is…

> Unfortunately, as is usual for them, the parts and upgrade kits aren't available for ordering yet, and likely won't be for some time, until the actual laptops are shipping. Why would you expect otherwise? I fully expect any OEM to place itself at the front of the queue for parts coming from its suppliers. If for some reason they sold parts before the laptops started shipping, I'd fully expect impatient customers wo…

Yes, I really should have clarified: it makes sense, and I'm not blaming them. It's more just that, given their business model, and that they do intend to sell upgrade kits, I imagine that along with the people pre-ordering full laptops, there are quite a few of us who would be eager to pre-order upgrade kits or the parts to upgrade our current laptops.

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Post by altairprime »

stetrain wrote: post #173
altairprime wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything that isn’t a MacBook will be more expensive than a MacBook, so you should choose a price you want to spend and then evaluate if you prefer a Framework or a Mac at that price point . If your available spending power is too low for a Framework, you’re not getting a Framework — and, separately, if you want a Framework for some reason specific to the Framework and can afford one, then the price of a Mac isn’t…

> Everything that isn’t a MacBook will be more expensive than a MacBook Imagine telling this to someone in 2010 or 2015.

No one was willing to hear it back then, but some guy named Buffett knew what was up :)

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

speedgoose wrote: post #262
einpoklum wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Why would I touch my screen? My hands are on the keyboard, I'm not lifting them.

Developing applications for touch devices is much nicer on a laptop with a touchscreen.

It’s not something I do. Hence - can I have one without a touchscreen?

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Post by 12_throw_away »

Sephr wrote: post #103

My main gripes: - There's zero mention of the display technology, just "2.8K Touchscreen Display" - The optional HDMI ("3rd Gen") adapter is only 4K 60hz, when the host chip has integrated Thunderbolt 4 which can output 4K 240Hz

In the announcement video, he says the display is "LTPS LCD" (I don't actually know if that's good or not)

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Post by Melatonic »

Rohansi wrote: post #128
dehugger wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a huge difference between on-die and off-die memory. Where that shared memory is located matters immensely.

Assuming you're referring to Apple Silicon's memory bandwidth, that is not necessarily because the memory is on-die. The bandwidth comes from having more channels to access memory. This gives the SoC a wider bus to increase throughput vs. your typical x86 system with two channels. For whatever reasons Intel/AMD decided that two channels is all the typical consumer chips can support now so it's on them.

On laptops right? Weve seen more channels for years elsewhere

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Post by awongh »

How is ubuntu support for touchscreens these days?

How does it compare to an ipad in terms of fidelity / responsiveness, and for native-feeling integration with ubuntu?

I am, naturally, a bit skeptical that touchscreen UI would be any good in linux.

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Post by apetresc »

lawn wrote: post #185
nrp wrote: post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

Will the hinges be 360 like the laptop 12? I wonder how useful the touchscreen will be without it.

This is my main question as well. Either stock or with some sort of separate hinge kit, that would completely seal the deal for me.

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Post by brookritz »

uxcolumbo wrote: post #155
nrp wrote: post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

Any plans to have a keyboard with a trackpoint and thumb buttons? I Don't need a trackpad. If you add this then you'll have a new customer for life. The trackpoint is the only thing that keeps me chained to Thinkpads.

same

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Post by ilaksh »

nrp wrote: post #91

I’m happy to answer questions folks have around the product (later today).

Has anyone tried Qwen 3.6 35B A3B on the 370 version with plenty of ram and if so what's the best tokens per second you can get, with the ideal quant, like maybe the U GGUF at 4 bit
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