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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by hk__2 »

tcfhgj wrote: post #729
keepamovin wrote: post #649

This is one of the more broadly normal HN-reaction threads to large public news event I've seen in a while. A lot of love for Apple, respect for the decision, and respectfully stated nuance. Surprising and good. I still haven't scroll down to the bottom, I don't want to spoil my impression. But it's great to see a positive reaction. Good way to mark the moment. Tim has been CEO for 15 years roughly, since Steve's pas…

A lot of love for a company which doesn't even let you chose the apps you want to use.

This is not a bad thing.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by alluro2 »

torginus wrote: post #681
oofbaroomf wrote: post #6

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

When I bought a Macbook M1 years ago, then was forced to switch back to a PC and wanted to have something similar in quality - I realized there's NOTHING that compares at ANY price point, let alone $1000.

I switched from M1 MBP to Asus Zenbook S16 with Ryzen HX370. A bit better performance, better screen, design, comparable battery, ok keyboard... I switched mostly because I was missing my previous Linux setup. But that was only possible several years afterwards, and if you try to compare it to the M5 Pro...

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by hk__2 »

hobofan wrote: post #661
71bw wrote: post #654

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>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

This may just be my bubble, but even among my iPhone-owning friends, I haven't seen a single person use Apple Maps in Europe, so I wouldn't be surprised if the efforts to improve the map data have been more focused on the US.

Europe here. We have a friend who always gets lost and for that we call him "Apple Maps".

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by uyzstvqs »

oofbaroomf wrote: post #6

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

I'm hoping that they'll finally ditch the sleazy anti-consumer tactics, and just focus on providing real value through real quality. They're definitely in a position where they can do so.

Right to repair with aftermarket parts and app installs from any source without Apple's permission. Then I'll consider using an iPhone.

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Post by linhns »

mentalgear wrote: post #665
keepamovin wrote: post #649

This is one of the more broadly normal HN-reaction threads to large public news event I've seen in a while. A lot of love for Apple, respect for the decision, and respectfully stated nuance. Surprising and good. I still haven't scroll down to the bottom, I don't want to spoil my impression. But it's great to see a positive reaction. Good way to mark the moment. Tim has been CEO for 15 years roughly, since Steve's pas…

Hopefully the Neo is the beginning of Apple making useful and affordable products for all users, instead of walling their garden to squeeze out every last penny via Cook's 'premium'-upwards-screwdriver tactics ... the history of market-dynamics suggests otherwise, but let's hope and wait there's a mindset change as well.

Neo is a good product, but they're making their better products (Macs) more out of reach for a whole class of customers.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by DeathArrow »

Ygg2 wrote: post #740
user_7832 wrote: post #685

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I don't intend to be a contrairian purely to be one, but Apple is the same company that (to paraphrase) wanted to "see Saurik cry". This being hackernews, I hope to be excused for siding with a white hat code-hacker over a trillion dollar corporate. (And that's not getting into all the other morally questionable stuff they've done.)

How dare you insult the forty gazillion company! Stand back ma'am I'll protect you from this handsome hacker ruffian! Jokes aside, I have started to see Microslop as the lesser of two evils (two evils being MSFT and AAPL, Google being its own parallel universe abomination). Their commitment to backward compatibility really paved the way to cheap PCs for the masses. That said, every day Macroslop is working diligently…

Microsoft doesn't give 2 cents now on desktops and desktop software. They care about selling cloud and cloud products.

Since they can't charge a subscription for Windows (like Adobe does for its products), they don't care about it anymore.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by eloisant »

thenanyu wrote: post #160
danielrhodes wrote: post #79

I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. If you think about the last 15 years, Apple has really become the biggest possible version of itself without losing its values. Tech in general has changed quite a bit though. I don't know how Steve Jobs would have reacted to AI, and I don't know where tech itself would be if Jobs were still around. But I do think the next evolution is due and y…

Siri was under jobs. He saw AI before everyone else

The problem with the word "AI" is that it's a broad term with fuzzy borders depending on who you ask.

But no matter what definition you take Siri was not the first AI. It's a classical cases of Apple fans thinking Apple invented everything because they saw it first in an Apple product...

If you think about AI in broad terms, it goes back to the 1970's where any skill computers gained originally thought as only human was called AI. Like playing chess.

If you think about the recent use of AI = LLM chatbots/gen AI, Siri wasn't an LLM.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by linhns »

Danox wrote: post #599
carefree-bob wrote: post #570

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I forgot all about the Apple car when assessing Tim's legacy, too. I guess if you are gonna fail, fail so deeply that it doesn't affect your legacy :P

Apple spent $1 billion over 10 years doing the ground work to see whether or not they wanted to get into making a car and that’s a problem? Google is gonna spend between February and December 2026 $185 billion on their AI technology, and how much has Microsoft spent somewhere near 100 billion dollars or how about OpenAI (we don’t know yet) but that number will be my numbing or Meta which is some where in the $80 bill…

Looking at the state of EVs nowadays, I'd say Apple dodged a huge bullet. EV is no special without self-driving and also batteries literally become trash after a few years.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by d3ckard »

71bw wrote: post #654
btown wrote: post #72

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

I'm using almost exclusively Apple Maps in Poland and never had any issue (that I remember). Your mileage may vary and so on.
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