Great reason to steer clear of deezer
Why is that? They're being honest and reporting their numbers. Other platforms are not telling you.
Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated
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Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated
#312> 85% of these streams are detected as fraudulent and demonetized by the company This is the nut. This isn't actual AI generated music. It isn't intended to be real music that people listen and enjoy. It's just filler to populate tracks that pay out to scammers, so that scammers can direct bots and hijacked accounts to play their tracks and steal a share of the platform revenue.
Exactly, and that's the problem. The reasoning for creating the music is the problem, not that an artist wanted to use AI to generate something or experiment. It's not even muzak at this point, at least that honest about what it is and why it exists. It's the music version of the automated AI videos on YouTube, which takes a Reddit posts, have an AI do a voice over and then run Subway Surfer in the background (Though…
That's the old meta, now it's Tumblr post voiceovers overlaid on Minecraft parkour runs!
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#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why?
I gave my why's already in the previous comment: Claim: What it will do is it will spoil it for 99% of small time artists that still managed to make a living out of it. Why: It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more. Claim: That "artists" idea is that the Monet's will survive, but art is not a rat race where just the Monets need apply. Why: (because) a healthy art scene needs…
> Why: It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more.
why do you think this is the case though? vs people being more excited to get art made by small artists because they arent ai slop.
tbe small artist opening their stufio to sell prints has always been about the experience of visiting and talking to the artist, not the piece of slop that you end up buying
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#314"97% of participants couldn’t tell the difference between fully AI-generated music and human-made music."
Is this the new Coke vs Pepsi challenge?
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If you didn’t sink a career’s worth of time doing creative work professionally, then that’s a nice relationship to have with creative output. For a lot of people, AI has been one gut-punch after another with someone selling cheap knockoffs of your work in the same marketplace using your munged up work taken without credit, compensation, or permission. Mortgages not paid, cancer not treated, birthday presents not purc…
> AI has been one gut-punch after another with someone selling cheap knockoffs of your work in the same marketplace using your munged up work taken without credit, compensation, or permission. I want to be clear. I am 100% on-board with AI being absolutely shit. Buuuut, this has always been the case. Before it was scammers taking images from the web and undercutting you with prints, now it's scammers stealing your ar…
As a hobbyist musician and songwriter of decades i was excited about AI music in October. I could finally take my rough demos of me singing along to my guitar and make better demos then just using garageband as Im not much of a singer. I enjoyed using Suno for a month or less then realize this is shit .... my own songs are AI slop just like everyone else - all sounds the same and my songwriting talents are meaningless now with anyone can now do this. I didnt listen to my slop for months then the band I play in asked to hear some slop of mine and then / there my AI slop had some redeeming quaility. As with my band (church band) and I listening and then playing along to my slop. Just slop writers can now play their slop like real musicians can........
At least not yet Im sure robots will and also an AI microphone with AI built in will be created so everyone sings amazingly.....
Overall AI is stealing humanity from us all, we are allowing it and it is only to the benefit of a few rich pie holes.
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#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of people thought the same thing with everything going from analog -> digital. Or heck, even learning an instrument when MIDI was first introduced. Even before generative AI, there is a long-going debate in audio circles around simulated guitar amplifiers. The truth is, the simulations of them have gotten so insanely good that now one could simply purchase an all-in-one pedalboard and have basically all of guit…
>> one could simply purchase an all-in-one pedalboard and have basically all of guitar history at your toes And this is actually a problem. Great art usually comes from constraints, real or artificial. These things are a lot of fun to tinker with (a really fun hobby) but one amp, one guitar, and a small number of effects pedals will probably lead to you actually make more and better stuff.
engineering learning from a senior sde maybe 5 years ago - set your constraints with purpose, and apply them without breaking your system.
just because you have infinite effects doesn't mean you have to use them all. yypu can set whatever constraints you want
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Step 1: ditch the DAW and learn a real instrument Step 2: find a local jam group or community band/orchestra Step 3: have fun playing music with friends
what makes electronic music created in a DAW not “real”?
theres no tactile feedback. the music creation is asynchronous to the playing.
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I’ve been involved in one music project or another (bands, albums, solo projects, etc) for the past 25 years. During the pandemic, a friend and I decided to make a record together. We labored over it for almost two years and finally “released it” on bandcamp to very little fanfare. A few friends and family had nice things to say, and one random stranger reached out with positive feedback. I get a monthly stream repor…
I've been asking myself this question in the last year: > Why do I want to make music? I picked a basic DJ controller and a midi controller bundled with Ableton. I'm a novice, but I love listening to music and dissecting what makes a good performance. I crave that feeling of getting chills when I find something new that moves me in new ways. This set was a pretty recent example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfF8jz…
>> That being said, the world is increasingly crowded with "good enough" music.
As I enter my mid-50s this is how I feel about the music I listen to. I have decades and decades of music I love for a variety of reasons. I don’t have time for “discovery” anymore. If I get introduced to a new band by someone I know or algorithmically, that’s great but I’m not going to spend hours trying to find the next great thing when I have so much I enjoy already.
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#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
Step 1: ditch the DAW and learn a real instrument Step 2: find a local jam group or community band/orchestra Step 3: have fun playing music with friends
Multiple problems with this one. For one, acquiring an instrument is expensive - even secondhand, most instruments cost a significant amount of money. Learning it properly is even more important and expensive - fixing something in a DAW is easy, unlearning muscle memory is much harder. Keeping up said muscle memory also isn't easy. Sure, if you got a free-standing house, no one will care much about a drum set, trumpe…
instruments have never been cheaper, and for as dense as US cities can be now, they're still not that dense and people have learned to play instruments in denser settings
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#320I can see this being useful for solo game devs
If the music isn't important enough to write it's not important enough to put in the game in the first place. Solo game devs can use csound.