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Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Post by 999900000999 »

strangegecko wrote: post #47

I'm trying to learn music production with a DAW, sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time. Part of my reason for trying this was reading how creative endeavors can be therapeutic (I'm dealing with burnout/depression/cptsd). I'm at the stage where sometimes I make something that sounds good (to me) but I know it requires work (in the "not fun" sense) to finish it and even then, it will likely never be appreciated by…

I've been making music as a hobbyist for 18 years.

It's fun.

That's it's own reason. Even before AI you statistically will never ever ever make money.

Not only that, but legions of scam artists want to rip you off in some manner. 'Cool music , for 400$ I can get your listeners '

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Post by strangegecko »

user1847272 wrote: post #190
101008 wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree 100% with this and I also think the default mindset of "being heard and appreciated / make some money out of this" is very recent and only from the last (or two) decade(s). In the past learning a skill and do something was mostly for pleasure, and something that would stay in your inner circle of friends. Maybe one of your friends would tell his other group of friends but that would be it. Now internet gave us…

> make some money out of this The OP never said this. You and a few other commenters seem to think being heard == being an influencer that’s in it for the money. > and something that would stay in your inner circle of friends. Maybe one of your friends would tell his other group of friends but that would be it. That’s what being heard and appreciated is.

I probably should have provided more context, but it's all rather off topic.

However, I guess my life is strange enough so that people made assumptions around my original statements that don't reflect my meaning.

Quite frankly, I'm friendless and have very low self esteem and have felt "not good enough" for most of my life.

I remember building Lego starships with a friend a long time ago, and I felt that on a fundamental level, nothing I could ever make would match what he could build. It was like a law of nature that I'm flawed in that way.

Any new interest that came into life also came from friends. Nothing ever originated with me, I didn't have the confidence for that. Having others to collaborate with automatically validates what I do, in a way.

It's possible I simply never learned how to self validate activities.

My need for validation is a very childlike one, it's rooted in emotional neglect. I remember my mom praising other people but never finding praise within our family. One of many things that planted seeds of this sense of fundamental inferiority. Then life solidified that in various ways.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Post by graphememes »

If your goal is to create something you enjoy, do not labor over the process of how you do that, try everything, be a kid again, simply lose yourself in the joy of that thing, even if it contains "using ai" it's not a bad thing, it's merely another tool, like your DAW or photoshop.

Also, lastly, have fun, be frustrated, get angry, be excited, be mad.

Making music is fun, you don't have to make the process harder.

If you want to make money, good luck.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Post by avereveard »

coldtea wrote: post #234
Lucasoato wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve asked an artist if they should be worried about the newest generative AI capabilities. This is his (translated) response: > Artists? Pencil laborers, more like.. I am in favor of using AI in visuals. It will eliminate a lot of mere decorators, and won’t even slightly affect the artists. I hope AI as a technology has the same effect on the world of ART as the invention of photography had: it got rid of a lot of e…

Wishful thinking. What it will do is it will spoil it for 99% of small time artists that still managed to make a living out of it. It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more. That "artists" idea is that the Monet's will survive, but art is not a rat race where just the Monets need apply. A healthy art scene needs all kinds of creators, at different levels, and needs to be able…

Why?

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Post by nemo44x »

The funny thing about AI is counterintuitive. It will put an even higher value on quality as quantity is now essentially worthless. I don’t believe AI can generate high quality on its own. It needs to be used and manipulated to generate higher quality outputs than a human or AI alone can.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Post by coldtea »

avereveard wrote: post #245
coldtea wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wishful thinking. What it will do is it will spoil it for 99% of small time artists that still managed to make a living out of it. It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more. That "artists" idea is that the Monet's will survive, but art is not a rat race where just the Monets need apply. A healthy art scene needs all kinds of creators, at different levels, and needs to be able…

Why?

I gave my why's already in the previous comment:

Claim: What it will do is it will spoil it for 99% of small time artists that still managed to make a living out of it.

Why: It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more.

Claim: That "artists" idea is that the Monet's will survive, but art is not a rat race where just the Monets need apply.

Why: (because) a healthy art scene needs all kinds of creators, at different levels, and needs to be able to sustain a decent above-average quality chunk of them. Not just the Monets.

As for the last claim:

Claim: Not to mention it seems like the pretentious artist in the discussion sees themselves as some outlier Monet type that will be fine.

Here's the why behind that (since I didn't elaborate as I find it self-evident): because he says he's fine with AI, because AI will sweep the art scene from lesser artists and lives the Monets and real artists. Either he claims that he is one of the lesser artists that's OK for AI to sweep away, or he implies that he's one of the good ones that would be fine. The latter sounds far more plausible.

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Post by croon »

Projectiboga wrote: post #205
tmountain wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been involved in one music project or another (bands, albums, solo projects, etc) for the past 25 years. During the pandemic, a friend and I decided to make a record together. We labored over it for almost two years and finally “released it” on bandcamp to very little fanfare. A few friends and family had nice things to say, and one random stranger reached out with positive feedback. I get a monthly stream repor…

It isn't in your profile. Why not post it there or here?

I'm happy they shared it on a further request, but I feel not having it in GP or profile is consistent with and further strengthens what they wrote in the post.
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