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Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

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Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#221

The modified MIT clause is sneakier than people think. Hit 100M users or $20M a month and you have to slap "Kimi K2.6" on your UI. That covers any consumer app worth building. Not really open, more like free until you matter. Llama pulled the same move

The threshold for "worth building" is much lower than that for a lot of people.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#222

The modified MIT clause is sneakier than people think. Hit 100M users or $20M a month and you have to slap "Kimi K2.6" on your UI. That covers any consumer app worth building. Not really open, more like free until you matter. Llama pulled the same move

Worth building with VC capital maybe. A small team putting together an app that pulled in $20M per year should be pretty pleased with that.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#223

There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.

I'm genuinely so grateful for them

$200/m minimum to use Claude would bankrupt my country's white collar labor market

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#224
post #208

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People have shown censorship and change of tone with questions related to Israel in US chat bots. For the record, none of this bothers me. Will I ever discuss with an LLM Tianeman square? Nope. How about Israel? Nope. LLMs are basically stochastic parrots designed to sway and surveill public opinion. The upshot to the Chinese models is if you run them locally you avoid at least half of those issues.

First they came for people asking about Tiananmen Square And I did not speak out Because I was not asking about Tiananmen Square Then they came for people asking about Israel And I did not speak out Because I was not asking about Israel

This made me chuckle.

I didn't mean to dismiss ethical accountability for LLM training corpuses. It is a shame.

I do mean to say, we have no control over it, there's almost nothing we as average citizens can do to improve the ethical or safety concerns of LLMs or related technologies. Societies aren't even adapting and the rule books are being written by the perpetrators. Might as well get out of it what we can while we can.

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#225

The modified MIT clause is sneakier than people think. Hit 100M users or $20M a month and you have to slap "Kimi K2.6" on your UI. That covers any consumer app worth building. Not really open, more like free until you matter. Llama pulled the same move

And the Kimi team broke the Anthropic ToS by training off Opus outputs and… nothing happened?

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#226

I've always been surprised Kimi doesn't get more attention than it does. It's always stood out to me in terms of creativity, quality... has been my favorite model for awhile (but I'm far from an authority)

I remember when the first K2 dropped

It was the best creative writer by some distance

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#228
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Maybe this can help https://simonwillison.net/2024/Oct/25/pelicans-on-a-bicycle/

It doesn't, I get that it's _a_ benchmark. It's just not a good or insightful one, and having it posted so often on HN feels like low quality spam at this point

Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide a concrete example of a US built model that completely refuses to discuss a scientific or political view? Show us the receipt.

https://imgur.com/a/censorship-much-CBxXOgt (continues after the ad break)

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Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding

#230

The modified MIT clause is sneakier than people think. Hit 100M users or $20M a month and you have to slap "Kimi K2.6" on your UI. That covers any consumer app worth building. Not really open, more like free until you matter. Llama pulled the same move

I'll definitely put this into the "good problem to have" category.
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