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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

latexr wrote: post #118
maebert wrote: post #59

The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest (I’m Not saying ethical, just brilliant). The commercial gains are one side of course. But consider this: Gets labelled supply chain risk by the pentagon. Hypes up what they claim to be the most advanced hacking tool on the planet. This puts the US government into a loose / loose position. Either deny the NSA acc…

> The whole artificial scarcity Anthropic created around Mythos / Glasswing is quite brilliant to be honest Isn’t that just the same strategy OpenAI has used over and over? Sam Altman is always “OMG, the new version of ChatGPT is so scary and dangerous”, but then releases it anyway (tells you a lot about his values—or lack thereof) and it’s more of the same. Pretty sure Aesop had a fable about that. “The CEO who crie…

They way they've published hashes of the bugs it has found so that once those bugs are fixed they can responsibly disclose them while also proving that they weren't lying... that displays a willingness to dabble in evidence which is far beyond anything OpenAI has done to support their claims.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by [deleted] »

mannanj wrote: post #184
me_me_me wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it though, current US President is openly for sale. If you need something done you go to Donald and pay the price. Need a pardon? No problem. Its broad daylight mafia state, the way they operate. 15 years ago Fox News tried to generate outrage because obama wore tan suit.

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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by abustamam »

evanjrowley wrote: post #112
Aerroon wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because your pronounce them backwards. "Loose" is a short word that ends sharply, but "lose" is a long word that slowly peters out. They should be the other way around imo.

Now that you frame it that way, I'm surprised "lose" didn't evolve to be pronounced like "Lowe's"

I hate discussions like these because then I start reading words in weird ways and then I look at words as a random jumble of letters that don't even seem like words anymore. Is that just me? :)

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

tren_hard wrote: post #187
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #28

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> The government is the one that said it didn't want/couldn't use this Technically, the Pentagon did. I don’t know if that’s legally binding on the NSA.

I work for a completely unrelated fed agency, who doesn’t use Anthropic products, and we all received the email stating we couldn’t use them period.

Huh, does supply-chain risk mean SecDef can bar a company from all federal contracting?

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Post by abustamam »

maebert wrote: post #151
JackFr wrote: post #146

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I always assume not everyone is an English speaker and let it go.

Ha. Non-native speaker here although you wouldn’t be able to tell what talking to me, until you hear me confuse when to use this vs that, and lose vs loose. Some things my brain just refuses to remember.

Native English speaker here and my linguist wife constantly has to remind me that I use many propositions incorrectly, because my parents were non-native speakers and in their native language (Behasa Melayu), those propositions were the same words.

For some reason I can't think of those propositions at the moment, but it's definitely prevalent when I'm speaking French and use the wrong proposition, only because I'd have used the wrong proposition in English.

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Post by abustamam »

renegade-otter wrote: post #137
daemonologist wrote: post #60

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> This puts the US government into a loose / loose position. You might even call it... a tight spot

This is not the first time Pete Hegseth charged into a bar, started swinging his fists and screaming "don't you know who my father is", only to find his junk in a vise with no graceful way get it out.

For some reason I thought you were doing a setup for a joke...

"The President of the US, the Secretary of Defense, Iranian Prime Minister walk into a bar..."

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Post by orochimaaru »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #203
orochimaaru wrote: post #170

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That is allegedly not what happened. Anthropic’s CEO was happy to grant waivers on a case by case basis. The problem is the branches of the government that Anthropic was doing business with found it infeasible to do this. They had another problem. If one of their contractors used Claude to engineer solutions contrary to Anthropic’s “manifesto” would Claude poison pill the code? Basically Anthropic wanted the angels h…

> That is allegedly not what happened. Anthropic’s CEO was happy to grant waivers on a case by case basis. The problem is the branches of the government that Anthropic was doing business with found it infeasible to do this. That's not what the presidential announcement blacklisting Anthropic said. It said they're being punished for trying to require that the military follow their terms of service.

That’s the other pov (from the govt angle) - https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-official-details-ho...

The media is usually flush with defending Anthropic. And yes - the supply chain risk label is too broad. But there is another side to the story and Anthropic isn’t an “innocent” as made out to be.

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Post by rozal »

estearum wrote: post #15
giantg2 wrote: post #9

This is not surprising. Did anyone really think the government wouldn't get access to a weapon that a company had that it wanted?

You're misunderstanding. The government is the one that said it didn't want/couldn't use this "weapon."

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Post by abustamam »

freehorse wrote: post #201
duckmysick wrote: post #183

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It doesn't make sense to have "lose" pronounced as it is. We have rose, pose, dose, nose all pronounced with ō. And then you have lose pronounced as loo͞z. It feels natural to put two O's in there when you write it.

English is not a rules-based language, esp wrt pronunciation. Words can be pronounced as anything.

This is true, but if the goal is to be understood, it's in the speaker's best interest to pronounce words in a way they'll best be understood. So I think even if the language itself lacks formal rules, we as a society of communicators should align on some loose set of rules.
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