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Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by nothrabannosir »

galangalalgol wrote: post #184
realusername wrote: post #173

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There's a lot of good use-cases of Web usb, you can't just cut everything which might have privacy aspects otherwise the browsers wouldn't have canvas or even gpu rendering.

What are those use cases? It seems like a giant hole punched all the way from a tab's sandbox through the process boundary and out to the kernel... Yes, gpu rendering is a great example of the same problem. Canvas at least has some intervening layers depending on implementation.

pianu.com used to be a website where you could learn piano by connecting your piano through usb with the browser. It seems defunct now but I found a video demonstrating it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTBmRV02NgI

I used something similar in the past. It was a legitimate use case for web usb which changed my mind on it quite a bit.

https://www.charachorder.com/ sells ergo keyboards and allows you to update their firmware directly in the website, through web usb. No local apps at all. Also an improvement in overall security from having to download some .exe / .dmg and running it locally.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by theodric »

x0x0 wrote: post #119
ryukoposting wrote: post #103

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> already painful and readily apparent, stagnation of your browser What's wrong with Firefox? There are several things Firefox does that it's annoying to live without in other browsers (video pop-outs, competent ad blocking, etc). Is there some core feature that's missing? I'm subjected to Edge at work and I couldn't tell you a single thing it does that I'd want FF to do. > and our standards bodies as entities distin…

reddit tab, firefox: 428mb. same tab, chrome: 78mb.

I will eat the RAM penalty to resist the Chromium hegemon. Grateful to have any alternative!

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by time4tea »

maxloh wrote: post #202
time4tea wrote: post #140

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Firefox is pretty cool. Use it every day. Blocks ads Multi account containers Dev tools very good I never notice that it is in any way slow, except for those sites that need infinity cpu on any browser, like jira. What specifically is the issue? To my mind it quietly just gets on with things.

In contrast, the Multi-Account Containers system is the primary reason I avoid Firefox. While it is meant to be an alternative to Chrome's profile switching, it is more a workaround than a complete replacement. I need entirely different sets of extensions for personal, work, and school environments, something containers can't do. Firefox's actual profile support is beyond terrible. To launch a separate instance, Fire…

I definitely have not had that experience, although use FF for personal, various work, and various educational places.

None of those have required me to install a particular extension..

Of course thats not to deny your experience!

The only time profiles ever come into it, for me, is using web driver, playwright, or whatever.

I guess maybe the usage stats dont support making the profile selector better.

But also, maybe its a thing they would accept a change for?

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by ezst »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #163
time4tea wrote: post #140

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Firefox is pretty cool. Use it every day. Blocks ads Multi account containers Dev tools very good I never notice that it is in any way slow, except for those sites that need infinity cpu on any browser, like jira. What specifically is the issue? To my mind it quietly just gets on with things.

I use it daily, but Chromes dev tools are better. I always wind up back in Chrome to debug things.

Funny, I have it exactly the other way around!

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by dang »

einr wrote: post #24

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"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

"Please don't fulminate."

"Don't be curmudgeonly. Thoughtful criticism is fine, but please don't be rigidly or generically negative."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by anildash »

rothific wrote: post #101
bakugo wrote: post #41

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> Thunderbird is revenue positive Is that why I'm met with a splash screen asking me to donate every time I start Thunderbird? Is this another Wikipedia situation?

I think that wasn't phrased well- it's "revenue" positive meaning donation money covers more than the expenses

That’s literally what the phrase means. Can’t help if people don’t know what words mean. It was phrased fine, it wasn’t _read_ well.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by tomaspiaggio12 »

manfredz wrote: post #196
derf_ wrote: post #187

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These two goals: > ... please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. > Ditching any direct financial ties to Google or any other browser vendor is both important and necessary... are inherently contradictory. If you do not want Mozilla to have revenue from search vendors that also have browsers, it has to come from somewhere else. Or are you…

There are plenty ways to fund digital commons, including people volunteering their time.

mozilla employs 750 people and has a 1/2Bn dollar deal with Google and still their browser is absolute hot garbage. i think volunteering won't cut it.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by pipeline_peak »

drzaiusx11 wrote: post #81

For anyone reading this that has worked on the launch of this new product (or the many others of their ilk throughout the years) under the various Mozilla orgs, I mean no disrespect, however I feel it's important to not mince words these days.. I implore ANYONE at Mozilla org to please, please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. That alone…

Where exactly do you expect Mozilla to gain revenue from other than non browser projects?

Do you want people to pay to use Firefox?

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by patmorgan23 »

manfredz wrote: post #196
derf_ wrote: post #187

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These two goals: > ... please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. > Ditching any direct financial ties to Google or any other browser vendor is both important and necessary... are inherently contradictory. If you do not want Mozilla to have revenue from search vendors that also have browsers, it has to come from somewhere else. Or are you…

There are plenty ways to fund digital commons, including people volunteering their time.

A leading web browser can not be built and maintained by volunteers.
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