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Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by glitchc »

dralley wrote: post #39
einr wrote: post #24

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>120k LoC of probably largely vibecoded nonsense for a window with a text box and a button that lets you send and receive some data over a HTTP API. "I will make loads of assumptions without checking so that I can invent reasons to get mad" Note that about 30,000 of those lines are JSON files for localization and testing, as one example.

That's still an immense amount of code for a chat interface essentially consisting of a text box and a button, which any OS (mobile or desktop) can usually throw up in a few lines of code.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by ta8903 »

drzaiusx11 wrote: post #81

For anyone reading this that has worked on the launch of this new product (or the many others of their ilk throughout the years) under the various Mozilla orgs, I mean no disrespect, however I feel it's important to not mince words these days.. I implore ANYONE at Mozilla org to please, please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. That alone…

I agreed with these posts a couple years ago but for the past year there have been a lot of meaningful improvements in Firefox.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by exceptione »

spudlyo wrote: post #15

Chrome on Linux is ~1.47 times faster than Firefox on the Jetstream 3 benchmark as recently reported by Phoronix[0]. That's how we want you to spend the money Mozilla, keeping up with your well-funded rival Google, and making it so we don't end up with a browser monoculture. These sorts of distractions just piss me off, and are not part of your core mission. [0]: https://www.phoronix.com/review/firefox-chrome-2026

I remember that Firefox is orders of magnitude more performant in css processing, especially for complex documents with many elements. Can't comment on the javascipt interpeter, so I assume firefox is losing points somewhere else outside the screen painting engine.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by [deleted] »

ryukoposting wrote: post #103
drzaiusx11 wrote: post #81

For anyone reading this that has worked on the launch of this new product (or the many others of their ilk throughout the years) under the various Mozilla orgs, I mean no disrespect, however I feel it's important to not mince words these days.. I implore ANYONE at Mozilla org to please, please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. That alone…

> already painful and readily apparent, stagnation of your browser What's wrong with Firefox? There are several things Firefox does that it's annoying to live without in other browsers (video pop-outs, competent ad blocking, etc). Is there some core feature that's missing? I'm subjected to Edge at work and I couldn't tell you a single thing it does that I'd want FF to do. > and our standards bodies as entities distin…

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Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by karrot-kake »

drzaiusx11 wrote: post #81

For anyone reading this that has worked on the launch of this new product (or the many others of their ilk throughout the years) under the various Mozilla orgs, I mean no disrespect, however I feel it's important to not mince words these days.. I implore ANYONE at Mozilla org to please, please stop working on projects distracting from the complex and necessary work of browser and web standards stewardship. That alone…

I agree that Mozilla is a breath of fresh air, and I am happy to see this extending to AI.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by eipi10_hn »

JCTheDenthog wrote: post #113
eipi10_hn wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this related to Firefox?

Because Mozilla is wasting money on something other than their core product, once again.

Thunderbird is under MZLA Technologies Corporation, their money and resources are unrelated to Mozilla Corporation, who pays money for their Firefox.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by latexr »

braiamp wrote: post #112
Onavo wrote: post #109

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It's slow. It almost always trails Safari and Chrome on most benchmarks. See e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1ljns9o/freshly_re...

How many milliseconds do you think this page took to render? I usually click and it's already done.

HN is a fast site (comparatively; most websites are unnecessarily slow). It’s a bad measurement.

Re: Mozilla Thunderbolt

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Post by kgraves »

drzaiusx11 wrote: post #99
ojubknobugh wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Mozilla should not be a business, full stop. The fact that is being run like one, albeit poorly is exactly the problem. I don't think you realize the irony in calling my post childish here. "C'mon" I guess?

How would Mozilla replace the $500M a year from Google to not be a business?
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