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Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by booleandilemma »

mystraline wrote: post #84
reactordev wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The laws of the US have always been crafted to protect the interests of the elite, not the industrious.

Sure has. And even policing protects local monied interests. One case was someone who used their bike as their vehicle put a tracker on it. Was stolen. Tracker dutifully said where it was. Went to police station, they did absolutely shit. They were handed the bike receipt, token receipt, and realtime log. They DGAF. Years ago, worked at Walmart. They illegally edited my hours and thieved $100 and change. Put in polic…

Life makes a lot more sense when you realize the government, or at least this government, doesn't actually care about you.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by 6thbit »

hayleox wrote: post #96

Trying to shut down a site by going after their domain names will always be a losing battle. As long as the link on their Wikipedia article keeps being updated, it'll remain easy to access. And it would be a pretty shocking attack on free speech if a U.S. court tried to order the Wikimedia Foundation to take that down; I suspect the public response would be similar to when the movie industry tried to get the AACS enc…

who updates wikipedia with the new domains? how do they know the new ones?

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by cooprh »

ezst wrote: post #97
Ragnarork wrote: post #19

> In addition to the damages award, Rakoff entered a permanent worldwide injunction Because apparently U.S. courts and judges can do that. The more this is ignored by third-parties outside of the U.S., the better. I'm not against international cooperation regarding common rules (I'm rather for), but the current context certainly doesn't designate the U.S. as a responsible custodian/enforcer of such rules.

Cory Doctorow made a whole CCC speech about this.

His talks are all fantastic

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by patrickmcnamara »

stuffn wrote: post #99
gib444 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Immediately makes me think of the vitriol here on HN for the UK trying to enforce their age verification law outside their borders. Will the principle stand, or will it reveal that "USA is always right" is a common held belief

Copying intellectual property is not piracy. This term was co-opted by big industries to insure the cash cattle continue to pay. Piracy has a very specific sting to it. This was a deliberate choice. We don't call burglary "piracy", yet if we relax the definition enough to include IP theft, it is also piracy. GabeN also had the wrong take in that it's a "supply problem" or whatever nonsense he said. GabeN is in fact a…

I never understand these positions. How do authors make money selling books if someone can legally copy it and give it out for free?

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by bawolff »

hmokiguess wrote: post #78

Barbra Streisand effect for them, free PR, and lots of money wasted for the other side

At this point everyone who cares about anna's archive already knows about anna's archive.

If the goal is to eventuallu get their domain siezed (forcing them to get a new one and confusing existing users), they probably don't view this as a waste.

Not every lawsuit is the Streisand effect.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by reactordev »

Aurornis wrote: post #91
mystraline wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure has. And even policing protects local monied interests. One case was someone who used their bike as their vehicle put a tracker on it. Was stolen. Tracker dutifully said where it was. Went to police station, they did absolutely shit. They were handed the bike receipt, token receipt, and realtime log. They DGAF. Years ago, worked at Walmart. They illegally edited my hours and thieved $100 and change. Put in polic…

> Years ago, worked at Walmart. They illegally edited my hours and thieved $100 and change. Put in police report, was told "CIVIL MATTER" Too late now, but for future reference for others: Wage theft reports should go to your state's department of labor. Every state is different but from what I've seen these offices have people who are hungry to catch real wage claims. Companies listen up when the state department of…

used to be the case before the government was gutted.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by badlibrarian »

6thbit wrote: post #100

300M come from: Statutory damages for circumvention of a technological measure for 120,000 music files 22M come from: Statutory damages for willful copyright infringement for 148 sound recordings from Sony, Warner and UMG. Why is it only 148 sound recording with infringed copyright when the 'circunvention' is for 120,000?

Different burden of proof. Why waste years trying to get server logs that may not exist when you can get a quick win? It's not about the money anyway. It's about the PR and whatever justification they can derive along the way.
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