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Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Extra problems with the copyright industry for no benefit. Hope the owner's OpSec was good enough and we won't hear about their unmasking.

They have a 500k[1] reward for finding OPSEC failures, so I think they have the basics down.

[1]https://software.annas-archive.gl/AnnaArchivist/annas-archiv...

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

#72
post #49

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I do not see any law being violated by Anna's Archive in the slightest.

Just use it to train / tune a LLM. Apparently, everything becomes legal if you only put the stuff into the right kind of software. That's at least what many people like to argue here on HN.

Anna's wants[1] companies to train on their data.

[1] https://annas-archive.gl/blog/ai-copyright.html

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Sounds like Anna won. Someone else had to spend a bunch of money on a lawsuit against a ghost.

They have lost a few domain names. For instance, they previously had a Swedish domain, which was taken down, together with a few others, possibly as a consequence of this lawsuit. Hopefully they will succeed to keep the others.

If they lose them they will create new ones, and someone will update the wikipedia page with the active URL(s).

Worst case scenario they could solely rely on Tor URLs, which would be virtually impossible to shut down.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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post #44

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Immediately makes me think of the vitriol here on HN for the UK trying to enforce their age verification law outside their borders. Will the principle stand, or will it reveal that "USA is always right" is a common held belief

USA claiming global jurisdiction over internet copyright matters goes back a long way. The case that "radicalized" me was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Elcom_Ltd . , which was 25 years ago! The other such case establishing global financial jurisdiction, often cited by cryptocurrency adopters, is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Scheinberg - "Pokerstars". It's wild to read "the U.S. Cong…

The laws of the US have always been crafted to protect the interests of the elite, not the industrious.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

#76

Spotify was also forced to remove 60 or so endpoints from their API: https://developer.spotify.com/documentation/web-api/referenc... ...and add a bunch of other restrictions like limiting API access to premium users, ludicrously increasing the cap for acceptance into the extended quota programme (250k MAU), and so on and so on. So the most fucked in this situation are neither Spotify nor Anna's Archive, but anyone tr…

Music should not be centralized.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

#77
post #44

> In addition to the damages award, Rakoff entered a permanent worldwide injunction Because apparently U.S. courts and judges can do that. The more this is ignored by third-parties outside of the U.S., the better. I'm not against international cooperation regarding common rules (I'm rather for), but the current context certainly doesn't designate the U.S. as a responsible custodian/enforcer of such rules.

Immediately makes me think of the vitriol here on HN for the UK trying to enforce their age verification law outside their borders. Will the principle stand, or will it reveal that "USA is always right" is a common held belief

I don't understand why it makes you think of that, this is a completely different situation. If Anna's Archive were an upstanding site run by a known operator in compliance with UK law, I would definitely be highly critical of this ruling. But it's actually an anonymously run site that violates most countries' copyright laws and is blocked in the UK.

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Spotify was also forced to remove 60 or so endpoints from their API: https://developer.spotify.com/documentation/web-api/referenc... ...and add a bunch of other restrictions like limiting API access to premium users, ludicrously increasing the cap for acceptance into the extended quota programme (250k MAU), and so on and so on. So the most fucked in this situation are neither Spotify nor Anna's Archive, but anyone tr…

Forced?

Re: Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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post #46

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It's infuriating but practically true. I had a few services that received illegitimate DMCA notices that I ignored. They were either blatantly fraudulent, automated junk or just not applicable to the law of the country where I'm hosting. They escalated to either my hosting or my domain name provider, who then threatened to cut me off for not complying. No discussion with them would work in my favor. I had to comply w…

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So if you're fraudulently accused of wrongdoing that makes you a criminal?

Nice, nice....

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