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The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Post by tossandthrow »

chaps wrote: post #88
tossandthrow wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are very strong on the "slop" bias. Why? In managing a large to enterprise sized code base, I experience the opposite. I can guarantee a much more homogenous quality of the code base. It is the opposite of slop I am seeing. And that at a lower cost. Today,I literally made a large and complex migration of all of our endpoints. Took ai 30 minutes, including all frontends using these endpoints. Works flawlessly, deb…

Which company do you work at so we can avoid your migrated endpoints?

Wtf. You don't even know what the migration was about?

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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tencentshill wrote: post #52
greatpost wrote: post #5

Thank you for this aphyr. My one ask is people seem to put “CEOs” on a pedestal any time things come up, like they’re an alien life form and oh no they’re going to do something terrible. There are good company executives and shitty ones. You should try to start a company and see if you can be one of the better ones.

>My And who are you? An account created for one post? There is a pattern of green account with usernames vaguely related to the subject matter of their comments.

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Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Post by itissid »

For any one who has not read the cockpit recording of air-france-447 I would encourage them to[1]. It is simply jaw dropping study in how things go wrong so fast — a risk with AI we have barely begun to acknowledge let alone regulate as a community.

[1](https://tailstrike.com/database/01-june-2009-air-france-447/)

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Post by monooso »

john_strinlai wrote: post #82
monooso wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, misapprehension. According to the Ofcom regulation checker [1] (linked to by The Register article), the Online Safety Act does not apply to this content. Here's the most pertinent section (emphasis mine): > Your online service will be exempt if... Users can only interact with content generated by your business/the provider of the online service. Such interactions include: comments, likes/dislikes, ratings/review…

is this legal advice you are offering, as someone practicing law in the uk? because you are all over this thread stating your opinion very confidently . (conveniently, there is no risk to yourself if you happen to be wrong or misinformed.)

No, I'm not offering legal advice, and neither am I stating an opinion. I'm simply quoting Ofcom, the regulatory body responsible for overseeing this law.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Post by coldtea »

ctoth wrote: post #16
coldtea wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'm a cofounder of a company that builds screen reader equivalents for maps. What's the mechanism by which my role as executive harms humanity?

The mechanism of making it a for-profit product for the blind people who can pay for it, as opposed as giving it at cost, or even better, having it treated as a basic right of blind people, built and provided by a welfare state to any of them that need it for free.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Post by john_strinlai »

monooso wrote: post #94
john_strinlai wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is this legal advice you are offering, as someone practicing law in the uk? because you are all over this thread stating your opinion very confidently . (conveniently, there is no risk to yourself if you happen to be wrong or misinformed.)

No, I'm not offering legal advice, and neither am I stating an opinion. I'm simply quoting Ofcom, the regulatory body responsible for overseeing this law.

>I'm simply quoting Ofcom

no, you are doing more than that.

you are saying that everyone who has a different interpretation of the parts you are quoting is misinformed.

that is an opinion, which you are stating as fact, as someone unaffected by the outcome.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Post by apsurd »

tossandthrow wrote: post #84
nostrademons wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somewhere around 2005-2007, when people were wondering if the Internet was done, PG was fond of saying "It has decades to run. Social changes take longer than technical changes." I think we're at a similar point with LLMs. The technical stuff is largely "done" - LLMs have closer to 10% than 10x headroom in how much they will technologically improve, we'll find ways to make them more efficient and burn fewer GPU cycle…

You are very strong on the "slop" bias. Why? In managing a large to enterprise sized code base, I experience the opposite. I can guarantee a much more homogenous quality of the code base. It is the opposite of slop I am seeing. And that at a lower cost. Today,I literally made a large and complex migration of all of our endpoints. Took ai 30 minutes, including all frontends using these endpoints. Works flawlessly, deb…

One point: yes, you're speaking from the power position. God-mode over a fleet of minions has always been an engineer's wet-dream. That's not even bad per-say. It's the collateral damage down stream that's at issue. Maybe you don't see any damage, but that's largely the point. Is it really up to you to say?

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Post by groby_b »

I really wish we'd stop arguing about AI with an "some automation failed, so all automation is bad" approach.

Yes, AF447 crashed due to lack of training for a specific situation. And yet, air travel is safer than ever.

Yes, that Tesla drove into a wall, and yet robotaxis exist, work well, and are significantly safer than human drivers.

Yes, there are a lot of "witchcraft" approaches to working with AI, but there are also significant accelerations coming out of the field that have nothing to do with AI.

Yes, AI occasionally makes very stupid mistakes - but ones any competent engineer would have guardrails in place against.

And so a lot of the piece spends time arguing strawmen propped up by anecdotes. And that detracts from the deeply necessary discussion kicked off in the second part, on labor shock, capital concentration, and fever dreams of AI.

The problem of AI isn't that it's useless and will disrupt the world. It's that it's already extremely useful - and that's the thing that'll lead to disrupting the world.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Post by artur_makly »

itissid wrote: post #81

Everyday I sit down to build a product for my clients. I am a one man shop _now_. Before I had people helping me. My mental state is not good. A very odd thing happens when claude or codex complete code fast, I begin to think of all the other things that are needed to make AI Agent work better. I begin to worry about problems that other people use to help me with and think "Can I do those too?". Problems like product…

you can always course-correct and find your sweeter spot.

Re: The future of everything is lies, I guess: Work

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Post by chaps »

tossandthrow wrote: post #91
chaps wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which company do you work at so we can avoid your migrated endpoints?

Wtf. You don't even know what the migration was about?

I mean, I'm always down for learning something new. But I hope what I learn includes the name of the company I'd like to avoid.
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