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Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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This is not a Backblaze issue.

When trying to copy files from a OneDrive folder, the operation fails if the file must be sync'd first.

I, for one, do not think it is fair to blame Backblaze for the shortcomings of another application who breaks basic funtionality like copying files.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/discussions/onedriveforb...

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most home broadband providers offer unlimited network traffic.

If they limit the rate of speed it's technically limited which really makes me wonder how they legally can say these things. I guess it means in a lot of cases it's like Comcast where they also limit the data a month perhaps but dang.

They mean that they're not going to limit the total amount of data that you send/receive beyond the natural limit implied by the maximum rate.

When a movie subscription says unlimited movies, we know they're not suggesting that they can break the laws of time, just that they won't turn you away from a screening. It's pretty normal language, used to communicate no additional limit, which is relevant when compared to cell phone data plans (which are actually, in my opinion, fraudulent) that shunt you to a lower tier after a certain amount of usage.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

#343

We are going to drop blackblaze over this We discovered this change recently because my dad was looking for a file that Dropbox accidentally overwrote which at first we said “no problem. This is why we pay for backblaze” We had learned that this policy had changed a few months ago, and we were never notified. File was unrecoverable If anyone at backblaze is reading this, I pay for your product so I can install you on…

Why not just use backblaze as cold storage and use restic or another tool with a GUI to backup to it?

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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post #179

The issue with a client app backing up dropbox and onedrive folders on your computer is the files on demand feature, you could sync a 1tb onedrive to your 250gb laptop but it's OK because of smart/selective sync aka files on demand. Then backblaze backup tries to back the folder up and requests a download of every single file and now you have zero bytes free, still no backup and a sick laptop. You could oauth the bac…

That seems like a pretty straightforward issue to solve, to simply backup only those files that are actually on the system, not the stubs. If it's on your computer, it should able to get backed up. If it's just a shadow, a pointer, it doesn't.

Making the change without making it clear though, that's just awful. A clear recipe for catastrophic loss & drip drip drip of news in the vein of "How Backblaze Lost my Stuff"

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google and Youtube, especially Youtube.

Google does not have unlimited. I had to pay to increase my storage.

Google Drive reneged on unlimited storage for Education accounts once they realized that universities also contain researchers who need to store huge amounts of data.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

#346

We are going to drop blackblaze over this We discovered this change recently because my dad was looking for a file that Dropbox accidentally overwrote which at first we said “no problem. This is why we pay for backblaze” We had learned that this policy had changed a few months ago, and we were never notified. File was unrecoverable If anyone at backblaze is reading this, I pay for your product so I can install you on…

Also taking recommendations for a simple services I can install on my dads windows machine and my moms Mac that will just automatically backup the main drive to the cloud just in case

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

#347

We are going to drop blackblaze over this We discovered this change recently because my dad was looking for a file that Dropbox accidentally overwrote which at first we said “no problem. This is why we pay for backblaze” We had learned that this policy had changed a few months ago, and we were never notified. File was unrecoverable If anyone at backblaze is reading this, I pay for your product so I can install you on…

Why not just use backblaze as cold storage and use restic or another tool with a GUI to backup to it?

Well this wasn’t the promise backblaze made a decade ago when we started using their products.

Now I need a new solution that will work for my parents

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

#348

We are going to drop blackblaze over this We discovered this change recently because my dad was looking for a file that Dropbox accidentally overwrote which at first we said “no problem. This is why we pay for backblaze” We had learned that this policy had changed a few months ago, and we were never notified. File was unrecoverable If anyone at backblaze is reading this, I pay for your product so I can install you on…

I'm going to drop Backblaze for my entire company over this.

I need it to capture local data, even though that local data is getting synced to Google Drive. Where we sync our data really has nothing to do with Backblaze backing up the endpoint. We don't wholly trust sync, that's why we have backup.

On my personal Mac I have iCloud Drive syncing my desktop, and a while back iCloud ate a file I was working on. Backblaze had it captured, thankfully. But if they are going to exclude iCloud Drive synced folders, and sounds like that is their intention, Backblaze is useless to me.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you using now? Asking for a friend

I use rsync.net. You can use basically any SSH tool or rclone interface. They have a cheaper plan for "experts" if you want to forgo zfs snapshots, https://www.rsync.net/signup/order.html?code=experts .

Just a note of caution: sync != backup. When I was younger and dumber, I had my own rsync cron script to do a nightly sync of my documents to a remote server. One day I noticed files were gone from my local drive; I think there were block corruptions on the disk itself, and the files were dropped from the filesystem, or something like that. The nightly rsync propagated the deletions to the remote "backup."

D'argh.

Re: Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others

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I guess the problem with Backblaze's business model with respect to Backblaze Personal is that it is "unlimited". They specifically exclude linux users because, well, we're nerds, r/datahoarders exists, and we have different ideas about what "unlimited" means. [1] This is another example in disguise of two people disagreeing about what "unlimited" means in the context of backup, even if they do claim to have "no rest…

Any company that does the "unlimited*" shenanigans are automatically out from any selection process I had going, wherever they use it. It's a clear signal that the marketing/financial teams have taken over the businesses, and they'll be quick to offload you from the platform given the chance, and you'll have no recourse. Always prefer businesses who are upfront and honest about what they can offer their users, in a s…

In university we had computer labs, I worked in the office that handled all of engineering computing. You paid the fee for engineering school and you got to use the labs. They had printers. We wanted printing to be free. This didn't mean "you get to take reams of blank paper home with you", it meant "you get as much printing as you reasonably need for academic purposes". Nobody cared if you printed your resume, fliers for your book club, or whatever, we weren't sticklers. Honestly we wanted to think about printers as little as possible.

But we'd always have a few people at the end of the semester print 493 blank pages using up all of their print quota they'd "paid for". No sir, you didn't pay for 500 pages of printing a semester, we'd let you print as much as you needed, we just had to put a quota in place to prevent some joker from wallpapering the lecture hall.

It was hard to express what we meant and "unlimited" didn't cut it.

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