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In Denmark, the spread of solar panels has become a divisive issue

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Re: In Denmark, the spread of solar panels has become a divisive issue

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Post by lukeify »

dathinab wrote: post #21

not buying that this isn't anti renewable propaganda for the US the images in the article looks bad until you take a short look at satellite images and realize: - it's not the norm but the exception - the photos are made to make it look maximally bad in a deceptive/manipulative way, and that is even in context, that Denmark is a special case in that it both quite small and has little "dead" (not agriculturally effici…

> - it's not the norm but the exception

I bet makes the person dealing with the outcome of being surrounded by them feel a lot better.

Re: In Denmark, the spread of solar panels has become a divisive issue

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Post by ghighi7878 »

teamonkey wrote: post #59
danw1979 wrote: post #58

I took a stroll recently through the countryside around Swindon, UK, where there’s a massive new solar farm on formerly arable land. One thing I only just realised was how the view from the ground is so badly affected when you’re down amidst the endless rows of panels - they reach well above head height. It’s basically like walking through a industrial estate, just with more grass in between. Really very bleak. Give…

Are you sure it’s arable land? The majority of solar farms in the UK are built on low-grade land that aren’t suitable for growing food.

Green grass is still good to look at.

Re: In Denmark, the spread of solar panels has become a divisive issue

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Post by lukeify »

ls612 wrote: post #36

Regardless of your political beliefs I would hope you could agree that using arable land for solar power is dumb. Denmark is almost entirely arable land and relatively small to boot so they should be using more compact power sources.

Agreed. I'm very pro-solar but there should be incentives for residential solar and solar on commercial buildings first. Covering up farmland and natural environments should be a last resort.

Re: In Denmark, the spread of solar panels has become a divisive issue

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Post by teamonkey »

ghighi7878 wrote: post #62
teamonkey wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure it’s arable land? The majority of solar farms in the UK are built on low-grade land that aren’t suitable for growing food.

Green grass is still good to look at.

There is grass. Grass is allowed to grow around the panels. It’s great for biodiversity.

Re: In Denmark, the spread of solar panels has become a divisive issue

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Post by littlestymaar »

detourdog wrote: post #53
littlestymaar wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that thing has 90% of his electricity usage How is that supposed to work with cloudy days with barely 7 hours of daylight in winter?

In New England it works fine and we project 3 hours of production during the winter months. Not sure what Denmark’s latitude is, but 7 hours of production is not needed.

New England is Spain in terms of latitude.

Americans tend to forget how far north Europe is compared to the US.

Re: In Denmark, the spread of solar panels has become a divisive issue

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Post by rickydroll »

l5870uoo9y wrote: post #56

The absurdity of the climate debate is that “we” talk almost constantly about two energy sources (wind and solar) that in no way have the potential to provide the stable baseload power required to electrify society. And unless nature has blessed your country with abundant geothermal or hydroelectric power, that leaves you with the following options: oil, coal, or nuclear power.

The addition of batteries as an intermittent power source brings us closer to 100% renewable energy and allows us to incrementally decommission dirty plants, such as coal- and oil-fired plants.

The design goal of adding a battery to grid power sources is to capture energy that would otherwise be lost when demand is lower than generation. In addition to capturing excess production of wind or solar-derived energy, one could capture unused energy from our current baseload generating plants overnight. We could also, this would also let us capture the energy that would otherwise be wasted by unnecessary nighttime lighting.

Re: In Denmark, the spread of solar panels has become a divisive issue

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Post by nitwit005 »

danw1979 wrote: post #58

I took a stroll recently through the countryside around Swindon, UK, where there’s a massive new solar farm on formerly arable land. One thing I only just realised was how the view from the ground is so badly affected when you’re down amidst the endless rows of panels - they reach well above head height. It’s basically like walking through a industrial estate, just with more grass in between. Really very bleak. Give…

That just sounds like endless corn fields, only solar panels.

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Post by masfuerte »

mort96 wrote: post #28
dathinab wrote: post #21

not buying that this isn't anti renewable propaganda for the US the images in the article looks bad until you take a short look at satellite images and realize: - it's not the norm but the exception - the photos are made to make it look maximally bad in a deceptive/manipulative way, and that is even in context, that Denmark is a special case in that it both quite small and has little "dead" (not agriculturally effici…

I can't even read it because you either have to accept all tracking or pay a subscription fee. Pretty sure that's against the GDPR? Anyway, not a good look.

It works fine with js disabled.
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