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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#531
I'm noticing a fair number of degradation of Claude infrastructure recently and makes me wonder why they can't use Claude to identify or fix these issues in advance?

It seems a counter intuitive to Anthropic's message that Claude uncovered bugs in open source project*.

[*] https://www.anthropic.com/news/mozilla-firefox-security

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#532

I'm afraid the music may be slowly fading at this party, and the lights will soon be turned on. We may very well look back on the last couple years as the golden era of subsidized GenAI compute. For those not in the Google Gemini/Antigravity sphere, over the last month or so that community has been experiencing nothing short of contempt from Google when attempting to address an apparent bait and switch on quota expec…

Maybe I missed the party, but it feels like it's just starting.

I have only been running local models and we are finally at the point with gemma4 and Qwen3.5 where they can start doing coding work.

And the quota can't change.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I make no unqualified claims as to whether Anthropic offers an SLA. I never did. But I do know that it's unreasonable to claim they don't when you didn't even take the steps to conclusively determine it for yourself. As I said: "I’m sure they’d love to hear from you, and they could probably deliver one to you for the right price. But it will be a high price."

Oh, well in that case, if posting URLs counts as proof of… something, there doesn’t appear to be any SLA page anywhere in their sitemap. https://www.anthropic.com/sitemap.xml Maybe it is just common for enterprise SaaS businesses to offer SLAs without having a page about it though. Something like that could possibly be unjustifiably burdensome as well because it’s not like they could just type “make a page about how…

Not everything a business might be willing to do is listed on their public website.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#534

That's weird, I'm on the $100/mo and I use it for around 2-4hrs a day often with multiple terminal windows and I never even hit 20% of my quota.

This is my experience too, and I always find these posts confusing. I consider myself a very heavy user 4-6 hrs a day and I never hit limits. I have on the $20 plan but not with Max.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, well in that case, if posting URLs counts as proof of… something, there doesn’t appear to be any SLA page anywhere in their sitemap. https://www.anthropic.com/sitemap.xml Maybe it is just common for enterprise SaaS businesses to offer SLAs without having a page about it though. Something like that could possibly be unjustifiably burdensome as well because it’s not like they could just type “make a page about how…

Not everything a business might be willing to do is listed on their public website.

That’s a good point. Having an SLA page is an indicator that a business offers SLAs, not having an SLA page is also an indicator that they offer SLAs, just secretly. If you think about it all of the people constantly complaining about uptime and saying stuff like “I would pay money for an SLA from Anthropic if I could” probably means that they are killing it with all those secret SLAs.

I mean obviously they have to offer them, because they exist, as otherwise you’d have to believe something crazy like “they don’t currently offer them” for reasons “that they haven’t disclosed”

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#536

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everything a business might be willing to do is listed on their public website.

That’s a good point. Having an SLA page is an indicator that a business offers SLAs, not having an SLA page is also an indicator that they offer SLAs, just secretly. If you think about it all of the people constantly complaining about uptime and saying stuff like “I would pay money for an SLA from Anthropic if I could” probably means that they are killing it with all those secret SLAs. I mean obviously they have to o…

Again, many companies will do things they don’t ordinarily offer for the right price. I’ve seen it happen myself (on both the buyer and seller side) on many occasions.

It goes to the extent of the company itself! Very few businesses publicize that they’re for sale or put their company’s purchase price on their website. But acquisitions happen all the time.

Anyway, I don’t appreciate your sarcasm coupled with what seems to be willful ignorance about how the world works, so I won’t be participating in this discussion with you anymore.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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> But the problem is it used to not need that before. These days, you have to think twice before you summon a subagent. This is exactly what I (and many others) kept trying to tell the pro-AI folk 18 months ago: there is no value to jumping on the product early because any "experience" you have with it is easily gained by newcomers, and anything you learned can easily be swapped out from under you anyway.

The value is all the things I built with it? Surely, this constant change deteriorates the experience but to be clear, here we're nitpicking on the experience, not questioning the value. I also don't understand the "pro-AI" phrase. It's a tool, it brings results. I'm not pro-car when I drive to work.

> The value is all the things I built with it?

To be clear, the people I were talking about were not referring to the value, but the experience in using these tools.

> I also don't understand the "pro-AI" phrase.

Would you prefer the phrase "AI-boosters"?

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#538
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Lights on = Ads in your output. EOY latest; they can't keep kicking the massive costs down the road.

Ads do not pay enough to cover AI usage. People see the big numbers Google and Facebook make in ads and forget to divide the number by the number of people they serve ads to, let alone the number of ads they served to get to that per-user number. You can't pay for 3 cents of inference with .07 cents of revenue. You also can't put ads in code completion AIs because the instant you do the utility to me of them at work…

Agreed, and the answer is pretty obvious as to how they start making profit. The answer is in this thread, CRANKING the cost up immensely once they establish agreements between the duopoly leaders in the field to do so in tandem and buy up any competition that seeks to challenge them.

I’m thinking 20x what the cost is now is where they’ll land. It’ll be a massive line item for software dev shops.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#539

Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

I don't want a nudge. I want a clear RED WARNING with "You've gone away from your computer a bit too long and chatted too much at the coffee machine. You're better off starting a new context!"

I don’t want a scary red message chastising me for not being responsive enough!

I often leave CC hanging (or even suspended) and use /resume a lot. I’m okay with that having some negative effect on my token limits.

Product design is hard. They can’t please us all. I don’t envy the team considering these trade offs.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

#540

Hey all, Boris from the Claude Code team here. We've been investigating these reports, and a few of the top issues we've found are: 1. Prompt cache misses when using 1M token context window are expensive. Since Claude Code uses a 1 hour prompt cache window for the main agent, if you leave your computer for over an hour then continue a stale session, it's often a full cache miss. To improve this, we have shipped a few…

Claude Code cache is not 1 hour. There is a "Closed as not planned" issue in GitHub that confirms that it has been moved to 5 minutes since March: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/46829. I started seeing the massive degradation exactly on the 23rd of March, hence after a few days I unsubscribed because it was completely unusable, with a ~5h session being depleted in as little as 15-20 mins.
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